Are Naughty Boys Really Declining?

[Jun]

Don't forget, we all have our own opinions about what constitutes a hot boy. I've seen many boys who have loads of farang just drooling over them when for me that same boy is a "forget it". Many times I've taken boys that I know other farang are wondering what in the world I see in them.

For me that's an advantage. Most of the time it seems like most farang are interested in the same boys I wouldn't want while the boys I do like are quite often boys many farang would reject. Works fine for me. Almost never competition.

It's a two-way street.

I agree and some diversity of tastes is helpful.

However, I also suspect quite a few of the regulars here have similar tastes, judging by the comments when pictures of cute lads are posted.

Most of the lads I like are rarely "unavailable". Admittedly I go for short time these days, which probably helps availability.

However, there are exceptions. One cute 24 year old is with a customer almost every time I walk past his bar. Not the same customer, but they all look like they're over 70, in some cases well over.

[SP55]

As I've said many times, I rarely go to the bars anymore

Can't blame you since the majority of gaybars in Pattaya are so boring nowadays.

[Jun]

Can't blame you since the majority of gaybars in Pattaya are so boring nowadays.

It's all relative. Perhaps not as much fun as Eros etc.

Yet, at the bars we can meet some lovely lads and some of them are quite good fun. Or chat to some interesting farang.
That's a lot less boring than sitting in my hotel room.

On the other hand, I guess you guys have something more interesting to do in your chosen residential areas?

Edit:
Thinking about it, the remaining gogo bars are slightly boring for me now.
Unless there's an exceptionally interesting lad on stage, I'm not going to off anyone, as I get better results elsewhere. Visiting a gogo without the intention of offing anyone takes all the fun out of it.
Is that a factor for others here?

I'm certainly not at that stage with Jomtien, but I guess some may be.

[Dodger]

The gay scenes simply aern't as risque' or fun as in the past which is something everyone can agree on, but I for one would never want to imagine Pattaya without the gay bars and other venues that are still on offer.

For most of us it's impossible not to compare what's going on right now to the Glory Days of the past, but I have to believe that to a newcomer Pattaya would still be a blast...with more available boys than any other piece of real estate on earth...plenty of places to meet other gays and socialize...and loads of opportunities for fun and romance on any of the neighboring islands. So I guess it's all a matter of perception. To us veterans the bar scene seems a bit boring, but to the rookies its the best they've ever experienced.

I for one have to believe that technology is playing a major role in the changing dynamics of the scene over here (as well as other tourists destinations) for the mere fact that sex tourists have so many more options than before with the evolution of all the dating apps...making it easier to hook-up...much less expensive then globe-trotting to get a piece of ass...and much less hassle considering all the visa nonsense.

In any event, my hats off to the bar owners, and most importantly the BOYS...may they long-live in Pattaya.

[Jun]

the evolution of all the dating apps...making it easier to hook-up...much less expensive then globe-trotting to get a piece of ass...and much less hassle considering all the visa nonsense.

Dating apps cannot do miracles. In Europe, I can't get a succession of cute slim under 30 year year olds into my bed at a sensible price. Although younger people probably can get closer to it.

As for boring nightlife, sometimes bordering on the unpleasant, look no further than Bangkok.
Just one gogo bar that I would consider visiting, which is Good Boys (formerly Screwboys). Although on my last visit, none of the lads looked as good as the ones I actually meet in Bangkok.
Fresh Boys insist on charging obscene prices to watch boys in shorts. As recently as 2020 they were in delightful thin white underwear that didn't leave much to the imagination.
Soi 4 is all noise, fat farang and a few lady boys.
The only place I found tolerable for a farewell beer was Dragon ??? host bar on Patpong.

You're lucky to have the options of Jomtien and Boys Town.
A couple of naughty bars like Eros would be a nice addition, but even then, we know they wouldn't attract many customers.

[Dodger]

A couple of naughty bars like Eros would be a nice addition, but even then, we know they wouldn't attract many customers.

If they opened a place like Eros you'd have to climb over the expats to get a seat.

[Jun]

If they opened a place like Eros you'd have to climb over the expats to get a seat.

I don't remember having to climb over expats to get a seat when we had a place called Eros.

[Dodger]

I don't remember having to climb over expats to get a seat when we had a place called Eros.

That's because it was a completely different scene back then...with lots of other places that offered hands-on fun.

If they opened a bar like Eros now it would be packed every night.

[Gaybutton]

I don't remember having to climb over expats to get a seat when we had a place called Eros.

I do. I can't say it was like that every night, but it was like that plenty of times when I was there - long ago now. And that wasn't the only bar. I remember Boys Studio and Playboy often like that.

I'm talking about back in the days of the "Golden Years" when there were loads of bars and every one of them consistently drew crowds - including the person writing this post. Even the beer bars were full of farang customers then. In those days, when airfares, drink prices and off fees were reasonable, and the bars could get away with far more than they can today. If you wanted to be sure to take off your boy of choice before another customer got him, you needed to "reserve" him at least a day in advance, and you needed to show up to off him within 30 minutes of the time you had arranged or he was fair game for anyone who wanted to off him

In those days Thai boys were the vast majority of go-go boys. There were plenty of customers and the boys made quite a bit of money by Thai standards. Nowadays I think relatively few Thai boys work in the bars because now they're lucky to be taken off at all, sometimes for months at a time.

Today far fewer gay farang even come to Thailand. For those of us who have lived here long enough, we helplessly watched the decline of customers, the disappearance of a great many boys, the end of boys going to the beach looking for hookups, and bars for sale until hardly anyone was buying them - so they simply went out of business and the venue has been vacant ever since.

I don't believe anyone reading this doesn't know that present day Pattaya is a shadow of the way it used to be. Even so, Pattaya is still better than anywhere else in the world. As I've said, if anyone knows of a place better than Pattaya for gays, especially ageing gays, please post . . .

[Jun]

That's because it was a completely different scene back then...with lots of other places that offered hands-on fun.

If they opened a bar like Eros now it would be packed every night.

Eros was one of the last survivors. If I remember carefully, in Sunee, it was only outlived by Power Boys, Nice Boys and Winner. None of which were directly comparable.
I never had a problem finding a seat in those days..
So competition from better sleaze bars didn't kill it.

I'm told that Gus bar might get very sleazy. Well, when I was in there, there were only 2 of us. So difficult to know where the boundaries are without testing that ourselves.

Despite this, board members still won't be rushing there to investigate. If you do, I look forward to reading about it.