What do YOU CURRENTLY tip in Pattaya for short time ?

[Jun]

I always recommend cutting contact when the time comes to return home. Enjoy it while you're in Thailand. If it's a boy you really like and spent a good deal of time with him, give him a good amount of money when it's time to say goodbye, but leave it at that. Don't give him any of your contact information. If you do, that's where the trouble starts.

I'm quite happy to give boys my Line ID, but never my phone number.

They can then contact me anywhere in the world. Line also makes it easier to turn off notifications for an individual or even block them. Also you can turn off calls, so limiting them to texts.

All I usually get is the good lads asking when I will return to Thailand. Which is one sign that I might tip enough.
The requests for money are rare and more likely to come from those who were not as good in bed. Which makes sense if you think about it. I just say no and ignore any follow up correspondence. Easy.

I also find it useful for contacting boys. Last time, I had my first day appointment with a Bangkok regular fixed up before arriving in Thailand,

[Gaybutton]

I just say no and ignore any follow up correspondence. Easy.

You have had extensive experience in Thailand and you come for months at a time, so that works well for you. It's not always so easy for people with much less experience, especially the ones who have convinced themselves they have fallen in love and the boy has fallen in love with him. I have seen, and you have also probably seen, far too many situations where the farang will do just about anything to keep the boy, including giving in to the money requests.

I still recommend for most to enjoy their time while they are in Thailand, but when the holiday ends, so does the "relationship" with the boy. That is the safest, especially for those with relatively little experience with these boys. This is often where one of my favorite things come in that I've heard from too many farang over the years - "Not this boy. He's different." Is that so? Wanna bet?

Time to repeat my all time favorite quote that came from Richard Burk, which I've posted often in the past. Many probably well remember Richard, especially if they remember Richard's Amor Restaurant in Boyztown. And many probably wish they had heeded what Richard said:

"If you want love in Thailand, rent it."

[SP55]

Not only do good tips help the LGBTQ scenes survive - but, on a somewhat selfish note, they also help ensure that you receive great service as well.

Never in my years in Thailand have I noticed a connection of higher tip and higher service from boys. On the contrary, the boys from the expensive bars have mostly been more rushed and poor service than barboys or freelancers who happily accept a 1000 baht tip.

[Gaybutton]

Never in my years in Thailand have I noticed a connection of higher tip and higher service from boys.

Obviously there is no standard and we all have different experiences. What works for one does not necessarily work the same way for someone else.

In my case I almost always give the same tip amount. Sometimes I get fabulous service and sometimes not, but the amount the boy gets is the same - and he knows how much it will be before we have our little meeting. I don't remember ever getting a complaint about how much I tip. That's how it has been working for me. Whether it would work the same for others - only one way to find out . . .

[Dodger]

Never in my years in Thailand have I noticed a connection of higher tip and higher service from boys.

You should try it sometime - you might be surprised.

[Jun]

Never in my years in Thailand have I noticed a connection of higher tip and higher service from boys. On the contrary, the boys from the expensive bars have mostly been more rushed and poor service than barboys or freelancers who happily accept a 1000 baht tip.

I agree on both points, although I might tip a fraction more.
Actually, I suspect there's a negative correlation between tip requested and service. I'm not the only one who thinks that.

I agree the higher cost bar boys typically deliver less than the lower cost app boys. This is one reason why I don't off from the bars very often.

However, if I receive very good service, I will tip more. One lad in Pattaya showed up & did EXACTLY what I like, for the longest short time date I've had for a few years. So I tipped him 1500 and he was invited back every 5~6 days for the remainder of the trip.

[Dodger]

You'll know when you're considered a "good tipper" according to the boys on the bar scene when you never have to tell them what you expect ahead of time...and your expectations are ALWAYS met (or exceeded).

I know some of you will grunt and groan over that one - but, as far as I'm concerned it's the truth.

I also believe that it's more than just the "tip" that influences the level of satisfaction you'll receive during an "off"...and it starts with presenting yourself as being a good person, and in their eyes this would be a person who shows a real interest in knowing them, versus sitting next to them with a list of sexual demands (personal wants). When you do this they immediately know what type of person you are, and good tip or not, Karma is a huge influencer in Thai culture.

I admit ignorance to how this works when playing the apps where your reputation for tipping may not be as well-known as when playing the bar scene. I guess with on-line hookups with total strangers it becomes necessary to list out your expectations. Don't know...this was never my thing.

[Jun]

You'll know when you're considered a "good tipper" according to the boys on the bar scene when you never have to tell them what you expect ahead of time...and your expectations are ALWAYS met (or exceeded).

Having lads is the only way you could confirm if this method works.

The mix of nationalities has changed over the years, so careful readers might want to be sure it works with the current lads.

As you advise that tipping well ALWAYS results in expectations being met, how many recent offs is this observation derived from ?

Normally, this would be none of my damn business.
However, if you're advising us all on what works with offing boys, whilst also living with a boyfriend & never writing about an off, I guess you can see why I ask.


Based on me meeting a lad at least every other day for a 3 month trip, I would say there's no way a big tip would guarantee performance.
At least 2 other members have also stated there's no correlation between tip size and performance.

Some lads are just briefly on the scene and don't want to deliver much whilst they are there. Hire one of those and you're not going to get much service, no matter how generous you are.

I find the best way to guarantee a minimum level of performance via the apps is to explain what they have to do to get paid & make it clear they will get no tip if you don't get X+Y+Z. A few drop out at this stage, which is the whole idea of it.

Then paying slightly above the average is all you need to be a good tipper. The lads will ask for another meet up. If they also know you're a butterfly, they will start introducing you to their friends.

[Dodger]

Having lads is the only way you could confirm if this method works.

The mix of nationalities has changed over the years, readers need to be sure it works with the current lads.

I can assure you that any opinions (or suggestions) shared by me on this forum regarding "Boys" applies to all nationalities, as well as applies to the current climate.

Personally I think recommending to readers that they construct "lists of sexual demands" and negotiate tip amounts like that's the only thing in life that matters is the wrong way to go. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

[Gaybutton]

Personally I think recommending to readers that they construct "lists of sexual demands" and negotiate tip amounts like that's the only thing in life that matters is the wrong way to go.

I agree with Dodger on this one. I tend to take the opposite approach - try to get the boy to tell me what he likes and work from there - that's if I'm not getting the vibes I want right from the start.

I think it's demeaning to try to get a boy to agree to a list of demands before agreeing to take him off and even more demeaning to threaten the boy with no tip if he doesn't live up to all he agreed. But many do treat the boys like that and I think that's a big mistake.

I remind people the boys are the main reason why many gays go to Thailand in the first place. I think they should be treated well and enjoy their time with the farang. If they are truly having a good time with the farang, that makes them all the more willing to do what the farang wants - and do it much better than trying to fulfill a list of demands.

I think it's much better if a farang takes a boy off, if he returns to the bar the boy is happy to see him rather than thinking "Oh no, not him again."