We all have different tastes.
My most recent Winner Boys visits were during the first 3 months of 2024 & no boys were close to perfect, for my tastes. A mixture of tattoos, moustaches and carrying too much weight. One boy was perhaps a "maybe", but there's plenty of competition in Pattaya.
If the bar had been charging 300 baht for a drink, I'd have walked right back out.
It seems Dodger has similar ideas about boys, so I can't imagine many of these would get into his imaginary perfect bar.
I agree.
A few years ago, I would have argued there is no need for mamasans and referred to Winner Boys as the proof. What's better than having cute boys in underwear serving your drink & no mamasans to harass customers ?
Since the Winner boy selection has now deteriorated, I can't use that as proof you don't need mamasans. So I'm slightly more open to Dodger's ideas.
However, I suspect the main reason for the deteriorating selection at Winner Boys is limiting themselves to Thai boys. Since foreign boys work everywhere except the Sunee gogos, we can only deduce this is due to the 2 bars being unwilling to "incentivise" the authorities to overlook that.
The Perfect Boy Bar would probably have to spend a lot on tea money.