What are "Alternative Facts?"

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What are "Alternative Facts?"

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Alternative facts are bold-faced lies. Plain and simple. It is nothing else, except maybe a Tower of Babel.

This development is big. This is worth watching. It will provide a glimpse into the new administration's profile and especially press secretary Sean Spicer.



The traditional way of reporting on a US President is dead. And Trump's press secretary killed it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... cc84bff810

A longer, more painful edition of the Meet the Press interview, chock full of evasion from Kellyanne Conway.

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You ask what are "Alternative Facts?" That's simple. A euphemism for BULLSHIT!

And I'm expecting plenty more where that came from over the next 4 years.
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From PBS (Washington)

Double think. Newspeak. Thought crime. Memory hole. These are the remembered phrases of George Orwell’s dystopian novel “Nineteen Eighty-Four,” about a futuristic totalitarian state run by “Big Brother.” It surged to the top of Amazon’s best-seller list Wednesday–President Donald Trump’s sixth day in office.

According to CNN, Penguin has begun printing more copies of “Nineteen Eighty-Four” to meet the demand.

The increase in sales appears to have started after Trump senior advisor Kellyanne Conway used the term “alternative facts” in an interview Sunday, which British historian and Orwell biographer Peter Stansky said was a phrase that “is very Orwellian, very ‘Newspeak.’”

In “Nineteen Eighty-Four,” “Newspeak” is the language of the state used to suppress thought.

Stansky believes that the increase in sales of the novel, which Orwell wrote in 1949 as a warning to the Western world about the totalitarianism of his era, is a direct response to President Trump’s efforts to manipulate facts during his first week in office.

In “Nineteen Eighty-Four,” protagonist Winston Smith works at a propaganda department for the state, called the “Ministry of Truth,” where inconvenient news can be discarded down a “memory hole.” Orwell was fixated on the idea that under certain governments, the past can be altered or documents rewritten.

Much has been written about Trump’s style of speech, which linguists have said is often unintelligible, yet deeply compelling. Orwell’s famous 1946 essay, “Politics and the English Language,” centers on the use of abstract words, often by politicians, to obscure reality.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/art/george- ... nates-now/
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readerc54 wrote:According to CNN, Penguin has begun printing more copies of “Nineteen Eighty-Four” to meet the demand.
I'm not surprised. Orwell was ahead of his time. Unfortunately, the way things have been working out, he was only about an hour and a half ahead . . .
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George Carlin always had a way of saying it best. Here he is - addressing the National Press Club. What he said applied then and still applies now.

I wonder what Will Rogers would say if he were alive today. One of his most famous quotes was, "I never met a man I didn't like."
Will Rogers never met Donald Trump . . .


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Alternative facts are what you get every time a politician opens its mouth. They're not restricted to Trump and his team.
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Captain Kirk wrote:Alternative facts are what you get every time a politician opens its mouth. They're not restricted to Trump and his team.
Alternative facts is an oxymoron, politicians use "spin" to try to sway the viewer. Bill O'Reilly, you are entering the "no spin zone", is a good example because his program is all about spin. The scary thing is trumpsters have clouded ability to distinguish alternative facts or spin from realality. Take Bill Nye and Kevin Ham debating creationism. This the way most Trump supporters think (Nye) and will implement this crap in our public schools.


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As suggested on Bill Maher Friday night the only way to defeat "alternative facts" is to present real facts to those who live within the bubble - and that means those whose only source of news is Fox or Facebook. With enough repetition, Fox facts are perceived as truth when no reality is presented. Unfortunately, that means in places like Thailand (where my TV only receives Fox News) and the red states in the US we sane folk must be courageous enough to stand up to the lies these folks "know" to be true.
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