Well, but just as often people who aren't anti-Semites by any fair standard are labelled as such just for being critical of crimes against humanity perpetrated on the orders of Israel's government.
When people commit atrocious crimes, they need to be called out for it, no matter if they are Muslims or Jews. I don't agree that the Israelis "casually" inflict suffering on others, the location / neighborhood of their country alone means they are in a precarious position. The biggest crime that has inflicted the most suffering - on both sides! - was to foolishly allow the creation of that state as it is, and we all know who was responsible for that.
Muslims: The Strangers in Our Midst
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Re: Muslims: The Strangers in Our Midst
I don't. Who are you referring to? Israel was created by the UN in 1948. Right or wrong, that's how Israel came into being. If I had my way, Israel would not have been created where it is. I would have been much more ironic. I would have had Germany become Israel. If the surviving Nazis didn't like it, let them be the ones to move out and live in a desert.Alex wrote:we all know who was responsible for that.
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Oliver
Re: Muslims: The Strangers in Our Midst
Unless you are believer in the historical veracity of the Old Testament (which I'm not, like most Christians), GB's "ironic" view makes sense.
What is so often forgotten is that Jews comprised only 7% of historic Palestine when Zionism became a dominant ideology in Europe in the 30s. And some of those who campaigned for a Jewish state in Palestine were anti-Semites who wanted Jews out of the UK and Europe.
So why did the UN sanction the partition, effectively transferring the most fertile land from Palestinians to Zionist emigrants? Guilt over the holocaust certainly. But why Palestine?
The answer is two-fold; there was a strain of Christian/Biblical thinking desperate to believe our Sunday School stories but equally important was that the UN itself was largely white and of European ancestry in those days. The Palestinians were "the other"- darker-skinned and poorer than us. Africa and Asia were colonised and the Arabs were no different.
What is so often forgotten is that Jews comprised only 7% of historic Palestine when Zionism became a dominant ideology in Europe in the 30s. And some of those who campaigned for a Jewish state in Palestine were anti-Semites who wanted Jews out of the UK and Europe.
So why did the UN sanction the partition, effectively transferring the most fertile land from Palestinians to Zionist emigrants? Guilt over the holocaust certainly. But why Palestine?
The answer is two-fold; there was a strain of Christian/Biblical thinking desperate to believe our Sunday School stories but equally important was that the UN itself was largely white and of European ancestry in those days. The Palestinians were "the other"- darker-skinned and poorer than us. Africa and Asia were colonised and the Arabs were no different.