Muslims: The Strangers in Our Midst

[artic55]

Undaunted, your solutions seem to be violence, more violence and even more violence, then you turn around and don´t understand why the US is hated in the Muslim world. We need to understand that wast majority of people in all religions are peace loving and and only want to get on with their lives.

[Undaunted]

Undaunted, your solutions seem to be violence, more violence and even more violence, then you turn around and don´t understand why the US is hated in the Muslim world. We need to understand that wast majority of people in all religions are peace loving and and only want to get on with their lives.

...Violence to prevent violence. By and large they are cowards and only respect strength.
Look and learn.....



When the shit hits the fan will you still be singing Kumbaya?

[Gaybutton]

When the shit hits the fan will you still be singing Kumbaya?

Many groups have their radical elements. Maybe the Salvation Army and the Women's Christian Temperance Union don't - I don't know. But many more do. It looks to me there were about 200 in that room in the video you posted. Therefore, get rid of every Muslim in the country.

I would have no objection to rounding up the ones who were participating in that room and sending them back to where the common mode of transportation is a camel. As long as they hate the USA and advocate violence against innocent people, as far as I'm concerned let them do their hating and advocating back where they came from or better still, Guantanamo. Sell them to the fishing slave ships.

That is, unless they are USA citizens. The Constitution guarantees them the right to gather just as they were doing in that video. As repulsive as it was for them to be delighted by 9/11, their meeting was not a criminal act. Which part of the Constitution doesn't apply to them?

By your logic the Good Reverend Phelps and his followers should have been sent back to where they came from. Maybe they would have been if anyone could have found the rock which they crawled out from under.

Protecting the USA by the way you seem to want to do would require a Constitutional amendment.

[Jun]

Undaunted, your solutions seem to be violence, more violence and even more violence, then you turn around and don´t understand why the US is hated in the Muslim world. We need to understand that wast majority of people in all religions are peace loving and and only want to get on with their lives.

The moslems go around killing plenty of people in places like the UK, France, Germany, Belgium, India, Thailand, Turkey & a long list of other countries. Too many of them have an extremist mindset. They are a threat to civilisation.

Blaming the US just doesn't stack up. The US has been the number 1 military power for something between 70 & 80 years, but I don't recall them annexing any territory in that time.
That is admirable restraint. Historically, when countries have had their spell as the dominant power, they have gone around building up the size of their empire.
Including the Ottoman empire.
[For what it's worth, the Ottoman sultans kept a harem of non-moslem women, since it was & often remains OK to rape them, in their eyes].

[Dodger]

Now different ethnic groups are the ones hated, but the hatred continues - through no fault at all of most of the people who are recipients of the hate. It's easy to massively hate an entire group. I'd like to see those who want to ostracize them have to take each of them, individually, and explain what they did to deserve to be not only hated, but forced out of their own country.

I honestly don't know anyone personally who claims to hate the Muslims, or for that fact any foreign culture. I certainly don't, although as a result of the war we've been dragged into with radical Islam I think we should contain the flow of Muslims trying to enter the U.S. during this period until effective screening controls have been implemented and we can ensure the safety of our citizens. And by "citizens" I mean all of our citizens including the Muslim population. I know this is a point of contention with many...but to me it's just a no-brainer. I could explain that rationale easily to any Muslim residing in the U.S. but simply telling them that these temporary containment measures are necessary in order to protect them.

[Undaunted]

I have spent time in both Indonesia(Largest Muslim population in the world) and Malaysia and in no way can or should these Muslims be equated with Arab Muslims.

[Alex]

Blaming the US just doesn't stack up. The US has been the number 1 military power for something between 70 & 80 years, but I don't recall them annexing any territory in that time.

By not "annexing" the territories we've "freed", what happens is that they take a dive into chaos. Iraq is the prime example for that: A powerful secular leader who happened to be a tyrant the country needed to be "freed" of by foreign intervention (that idea alone is ridiculous) was removed, resulting in a power vacuum that has led to the advent of the Islamic State, among other things. Forgive me, but personally, I would feel much safer having Saddam still around - and the funny thing is that it's likely that many if not most Iraqis would probably agree with the benefit of hindsight.

[Undaunted]

If there is a consensus at all it would be that the situation begs to be reviewed:

[Gaybutton]

The moslems go around killing plenty of people in places like the UK, France, Germany, Belgium, India, Thailand, Turkey & a long list of other countries. Too many of them have an extremist mindset. They are a threat to civilisation.

I disagree only with saying "The moslems" because that encompasses all of them when the fact is that compared to how many there are, only a very few are a danger to anyone.

It makes no sense to me to ban all of them because of the actions of a few. While I realize the importance of taking steps to prevent the radicals from endangering innocent people, banning them all from being able to travel just like everyone else and persecuting the ones who are already living in western countries is not the solution. I don't believe in persecuting innocent people.

However, I repeat my complaint: I see no excuse for the innocent ones keeping silent about the radicals or doing virtually nothing to help catch the radicals. I think it is perfectly legitimate to complain that they are not protesting en masse, just as blacks did in the USA during the 1960s when they would hold protest marches, demanding civil rights.

I grew up in Washington, DC. I was right there during the time of Resurrection City and Martin Luther King making his famous "I Have a Dream" speech. I saw for myself how effective that can be. That same kind of protesting against terrorism in the name of their religion is what I think Islamic communities ought to be doing. Then rather than hating or fearing them, I think most people would instead have a lot of respect for them.

[Undaunted]

I grew up in Washington, DC. I was right there during the time of Resurrection City and Martin Luther King making his famous "I Have a Dream" speech. I saw for myself how effective that can be. That same kind of protesting against terrorism in the name of their religion is what I think Islamic communities ought to be doing. Then rather than hating or fearing them, I think most people would instead have a lot of respect for them.

"I have a dream" speech