Tsarnaev

[Gaybutton]

As most of you know by now, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has been convicted on all counts from the Boston Bombing incident. Now there will be the penalty phase of the trial in which he could get the death penalty or life imprisonment.

I hope he gets life imprisonment. Not because I have any sympathy for him. Far from it. I think life imprisonment would be a fate worse than death if he's imprisoned in some hell hole, especially since life for him will be a long time. He's only 21. And in the USA many years could go by before the death penalty is actually carried out.

I also think the death penalty doesn't mean much unless the person is afraid of death. I don't think he is. I think he probably has convinced himself if he dies, now he is a martyr - entitled to the 77 virgins or whatever the fuck the number of virgins is.

If he dies, I hope he really does get those 77 virgins. I also hope every one of those virgins will look very similar to Moms Mabley. Let him spend eternity with them.

[lvdkeyes]

He needs the death penalty. Get rid of the piece of shit and not have the taxpayers have the burden of supporting him. KILL THE PRICK.

[Gaybutton]

He needs the death penalty.

I think that's what he will get, but if that doesn't happen I hope they put him in Guantanamo or, better still, put him in one of those - shhhh - secret prisons.

I wonder how much it actually would cost to keep him on death row for years while appeal after appeal, which is also expensive, takes place - as opposed to how much it would cost to keep him rotting in prison for the better part of a century, considering his age.

Timothy McVeigh was caught in 1995. It took six years to finally execute him in 2001.

As for executing Tsarnaev, I would have no objection to this method, although that's a better method than he deserves:

[Trongpai]

He needs the death penalty. Get rid of the piece of shit and not have the taxpayers have the burden of supporting him. KILL THE PRICK.

Yes, if they sentenced him to death and executed on the spot but the US legal system does not work that way. It costs more to put someone to death than to jail someone for life. There's a lot of economic models, methodology varies, individual cases vary and different states have different numbers, but all conclude that the death penalty is much more expensive. I would imagine that this case will be at the high end of costs for the application of capital punishment.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

[lvdkeyes]

I'd blow his fucking head off with no charge.

[Gaybutton]

Oh well, he got death. I would have preferred life imprisonment. Here's why:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/13/us/dz ... index.html

[Rogie]

Would American public opinion tolerate 'just' a prison sentence?

I assume as the USA maintains the death penalty, a majority of the American Public support it. Assuming that's so, then when a person carries out pre-meditated cold-blooded murder(s), if he escapes a death sentence the public will be outraged.

Britain doesn't have the death penalty. If I were an MP and there was a free vote in Parliament, I'd vote for the status quo. Having said that, any country that maintains the death penalty so that it is the law of that country, when a person is sentenced to death I'm not going to lose any sleep over their fate. They knew what they were doing (I mean cold-blooded murder, I'm not including crimes-of-passion in that) that if they were convicted they'd hang (to use a colloquialism) so anyone prepared to take the risk has to face the consequences. The same applies for countries which levy the death penalty for drug smuggling, it might seem barbarian to the liberal left in Britain or Amnesty International, but outsiders ought to respect another country's laws.

Edit: Just realised what I said there - I don't support Sharia Law or any of its spin-offs for one instant, so I guess I could be accused of turning a blind eye!

[Gaybutton]

Would American public opinion tolerate 'just' a prison sentence?

Considering what life imprisonment, without possibility of parole, in a super-max would mean, I believe most Americans would be quite satisfied. Maybe it's not a death sentence, but it would be like a living death sentence - far worse than a death sentence. I think a death sentence is too good and too easy a way out for a piece of shit like him who would do such a thing as he did, whether his brother really led him by the nose or not. It was him, not the older brother, who planted the bomb right in the middle of an area where children were. They killed and maimed people. For what?

I'd rather be on Devil's Island than have to spend the next 50 or 60 years in a super-max. I wouldn't want to spend one day in a super-max. If I were in his place, given a choice my preference would be a death sentence. He's probably convinced he's going to die a martyr and will be rewarded with those 77 virgins.

[Rogie]

Considering what life imprisonment, without possibility of parole, in a super-max would mean, I believe most Americans would be quite satisfied.

(My bold)

Provided the convicted and sentenced murderer's conditions were as atrocious as some prisons seem to be, your comment seems a reasonable one GB. In fact I read a report in my newspaper this morning which stated "... the people of Boston - one of America's most liberal cities - favoured sentencing Tsarnaev to life in prison rather than executing him". Some of the victims are of the same mind, but others say death was the "only fair sentence'".

I'm not sure what would happen in Britain to a murderer like Tsarnaev - whether we have the equivalent of the American super-max prisons. We don't have the death penalty, so there must be many serving life sentences, but our murder rate is probably considerably lower than in the U S. Personally I would like to see some of our callous and sadistic murderers treated the same way as it seems some American prisons treat their inmates, but I doubt it happens in Britain. We're too soft.

I'm already veering too far from the OP, but when I refer above to sadistic killers here is a link to one such. Unfortunately in Britain there seems to be a steady stream of similar tragic deaths of young innocent children at the hands of evil people - of both sexes; some women (usually the child's natural mother) are almost as bad as the men (usually a 'boyfriend') - they just convince themselves it's not happening; they put their trust and future hopes in the man above the welfare of their child.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-be ... s-32749175

[Gaybutton]

Provided the convicted and sentenced murderer's conditions were as atrocious as some prisons seem to be

If terrible places like super max prisons did not exist, then I definitely would have been in favor of the death penalty for Tsarnaev, but since they do I would have preferred to see him have to spend the rest of his life there. I wonder what he thought planting that bomb was supposed to accomplish.