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Jun wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 4:29 pm What they need is a regular bus service
For a while they had regular bus service, hence the bus stops. It didn't work. Hardly anybody ever rode the buses. They simply didn't want to. I don't know why people refused to ride the buses, but they didn't and the whole thing failed. It didn't take all that long before they gave up and got rid of the buses.

Since the bus idea flopped, I doubt they're going to try again, at least not for the foreseeable future.

There is no logical reason why they punish for parking at the bus stops when there are no buses. Just more money for the coffers.
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Gaybutton wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 7:29 pmFor a while they had regular bus service, hence the bus stops. It didn't work. Hardly anybody ever rode the buses. They simply didn't want to. I don't know why people refused to ride the buses, but they didn't and the whole thing failed.
How frequent were the buses ?

I've seen buses in Chaing Mai, at a 45 minute interval & costing 30 baht. That's guaranteed to fail.
From memory, there is at least one bus line in Khon Kaen, with a similar frequency. Guaranteed to fail.

In Bangkok, the next bus will probably be along in 5 minutes or so. And whilst Bangkok has songthaew, they run different routes to the buses. So no one will jump on a songthaew before the bus arrives. The bus network in Bangkok works. Just like in many normal cities.

My suggested approach for Pattaya is:
1 Ban Songthaew from the main north south routes.
2 Put buses on, with a 5 minute frequency and a swipe payment card & bus lanes. So for longer trips, this will be faster than the current set up. For shorter trips, well both Thais and certain foreigners would benefit from actually walking a few hundred metres some time.
3 Create a full route network, with a map, numbered routes and swipe payment. Send the songthaew to the new routes, initially. Have them connect with the buses. Both tourists & locals might just appreciate a full network. Gradually increase the provision of proper buses to replace the songhtaew.
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Jun wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:44 am How frequent were the buses ?
Good question. I really don't know. Since I had my own transportation I never rode them, so I never paid attention to their frequency. Maybe another board member remembers.

My guess is whatever the frequency was supposed to be, it probably was just as inconsistent as so much else is around here.

I wonder if the failure had anything to do with how crowded the streets already were with the Chinese tour buses. I think given that, perhaps the buses were contributing to even more traffic problems rather than resolving them.

In any case, I don't foresee the city bringing back buses no matter how much sense it would make. It would be nice if at least they actually get started on construction for the tram.
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Gaybutton wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:36 amIt would be nice if at least they actually get started on construction for the tram.
It would be terrific if they just built a normal ground level, or near ground level tram. And ran a frequent service.
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Jun wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 1:14 pm It would be terrific if they just built a normal ground level, or near ground level tram. And ran a frequent service.
Why do I think it will be a very long time before we see bus service or the tram in Pattaya?
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Well, Pattaya's overstaffed police force have decided to assign about 50 officers to direct traffic on second road.
A few days ago, I couldn't figure out what they were doing and the traffic flow was no better than the next day, when they were not present.

Today, they are inexplicably keeping all the traffic in one lane. I have no idea why, but slowing down traffic can hardly be good for business. So a 4 lane road has just one lane for traffic.

If this is all they have to do, perhaps Thailand should reduce police numbers to the kind of level we have in our home countries? Just imagine what could be done if they reassigned all this surplus headcount to policing dangerous drivers?

Meanwhile, regular enforcement of the odd even parking restrictions on Pattaya Tai continues, as on previous trips. It evidently takes a lot of wheel clamping and removal of motorcycles before the penny drops with motorists here.
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