Arab Motorcycle Racing Business as Usual

[Jun]

For paying tea money to get policing done properly I actually know of many, including one time when I had to pay to get the police to arrest the guy who put a rock through my window.

In this case, you were an individual paying a modest amount of money to solve a problem directly affecting you & you alone.
Someone paying the police to solve the Arab problem is less likely, as that's a problem shared by all residents. So for one person to make the entire payment would be perceived as "unfair". Establishing a collective fund and trusting people not to steal the cash is more difficult.

Are there examples of groups paying to ensure proper policing ?

I might buy into your theory about tea money explaining why the motorbike maniacs get away with it year after year as soon as you, or someone, will answer the question I've asked many times, but have yet to see anyone address it: If tea money is what keeps this happening year after year, then who is paying who, and why?

This has been answered before.

The motorcycle rental shops would probably have to pay if there was any illegal activity, such as renting to those without a proper license.
If the police held motorcycles "hostage" after the few arrests they make, again, it might be a tea money situation.
They could directly collect tea money off the Arabs for various offences.

So that's three examples.

Finally, policing fast moving targets is hard work. Why do that when they can spend time managing their portfolio of static bribe paying businesses ?


Of course I can't be sure I have the right answer.
On the other hand I see no reason to assume that this is the only illegal activity in town where the police don't collect bribes.

[Gaybutton]

This has been answered before.

The motorcycle rental shops would probably have to pay if there was any illegal activity, such as renting to those without a proper license.
If the police held motorcycles "hostage" after the few arrests they make, again, it might be a tea money situation.
They could directly collect tea money off the Arabs for various offences.

None of that makes any sense to me and does not answer my question. It does not explain why this is allowed to continue year after year. I think you know as well as I do they will be right back next year causing the same problems.

Do you really think the police, every police officer who has been patrolling the Soi Yensabai area for years, has been collecting tea money from individual Kuwaitis, so they just let all of them run amok? Maybe you have convinced yourself tea money explains all this chaos, but I don't believe that for one second. I am convinced whatever the answer really is, it goes way beyond tea money.

Do you also believe the motorbike rental shops, all of them renting to Kuwaitis, are paying the police to let this go on and on? If they are, which police officers are they paying, all of them?

I think one thing we both agree on - one way or another, the answer is definitely under the umbrella of sheer corruption.

[Gaybutton]

Tea money explains tolerance of this behavior to this extent? People literally forced out of their homes because of it? No way to I agree with the idea of tea money being responsible. I truly believe something far more sinister is going on.

Those loud exhaust pipes are also illegal. Whoever installed them and whoever supplied installers with them ought to be arrested too.

Where does that sacred "good image" of Pattaya fit in . . . ?
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Kuwaiti biker gangs keep Pattaya awake all night with roaring engines; some residents forced to move out

By Pattaya Mail

August 5, 2025

Local residents of Soi Yensabai in South Pattaya say they’ve had enough after yet another sleepless night caused by a group of Kuwaiti street racers revving their motorcycle engines well into the early morning hours.

At around 4:00 AM on August 4, frustrated locals called police to complain about the disruptive group. Witnesses say the young Kuwaiti riders sped up and down the narrow residential street on modified motorbikes and big bikes, repeatedly revving their engines and ignoring the peace of the sleeping neighborhood.

Pattaya City Police arrived on the scene and managed to seize a few of the bikes equipped with loud exhaust pipes. However, shortly after officers left, the group returned and resumed their high-speed antics as if nothing had happened — seemingly unbothered by the law.

Residents claim this is far from a one-time incident. The same disturbance has reportedly occurred night after night, with no lasting enforcement or effective resolution. Some families have even chosen to move out of the area altogether, unable to tolerate the ongoing noise and chaos.

Locals are now calling on authorities to take firm and permanent action to restore peace to their neighborhood, urging Pattaya police to clamp down on the reckless riders before the area’s livability — and tourism image — suffer further.

“We don’t feel like anyone’s listening,” one resident told reporters. “They’re back the next night like nothing happened. It’s time something real is done.”

https://www.pattayamail.com/news/kuwait ... out-512749

[Jun]

Tea money explains tolerance of this behavior to this extent? People literally forced out of their homes because of it? No way to I agree with the idea of tea money being responsible. I truly believe something far more sinister is going on.

Do you have a hypothesis for what that might be ?

[Gaybutton]

Do you have a hypothesis for what that might be ?

I wish I did. None of this makes any sense to me. All of this chaos attributed to tea money makes no sense to me. The city powers-that-be doing virtually nothing about it makes no sense to me. I can't figure out why there are not enough police patrolling the area constantly during the maniac hours. I can't figure out why anyone would want this to continue. I can't figure out why the authorities who are always worried about the "good image" of Pattaya apparently just disregard these goings on.

Doesn't Kuwait want its own "good image"? I don't understand why Kuwaiti authorities permit this behavior.

I also can't figure out why these Kuwaitis would even want to travel to Thailand and then spend their time behaving like this.

"Who else but an idiot would want to?"
- Sam Wanamaker (Filipenko), 'Taras Bulba'

[Jun]

The only "alternative" hypothesis I can think of is some well connected developer wanting people out of the area so he could buy the land cheaply.
But that seems unlikely.

One lesson is clear though. Don't be tied to living in a property in a declining part of town.

[Gaybutton]

But that seems unlikely.

If that was the case, that developer wold have been trying to acquire that land for the better part of 20 years. I too would say that is a tad unlikely . . .

That is why I think whatever explains what is going on, it is something far more sinister than meets the eye.

[Gaybutton]

One lesson is clear though. Don't be tied to living in a property in a declining part of town.

I agree, but many committed to the property years ago, when it was a thriving part of town. And now these goings on are forcing people out. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Instead of people living there having to go elsewhere, shouldn't it be the Kuwaitis who are being forced out?

[Jun]

I agree, but many committed to the property years ago, when it was a thriving part of town. And now these goings on are forcing people out. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Instead of people living there having to go elsewhere, shouldn't it be the Kuwaitis who are being forced out?

In an ideal world, yes.
In a real world, we're usually better off dealing with what's put in front of us rather than waiting for politicians to do the right thing. Being proactive usually gets better results than waiting for someone else to fix our problems.

To be honest, I don't even know why we keep discussing it.
AFAIK, none of the active thread participants live or stay in that area & most don't go there for the nightlife any more. We can't blame the lack of nightlife on the Kuwaitis either.

Now it's not ideal, but why waste time on something that doesn't even affect us and is beyond our control ?

[SP55]

To me it's obvious that the police will never bother to solve this issue. Next year in July it will be the same or even worse.

But here comes the good part. The problem is mostly affected to soi Yensabai and soi VC so it wont affect me and probably most other farangs neither next year. The only reason why we few farangs have visited those sois is to go to the remains of Sunee plaza. Sunee plaza wont exist next year so there is absolutely no reason why we should walk up and down those dark sois through the arabic neighbourhood with the risk of being run over by the kuwaiti bikers.
In the past lots of older gay farangs liived in the area, especially in Yensabai condo, but I don't think that is the case any longer