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Jun wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:45 pm Then, just to compound the stupidity, he blocks me.
Well, I guess he told YOU!

High IQs obviously are not necessarily one of the requirements for these boys to "offer services".

I enjoyed the part about him blocking you, especially since he's the one who contacted you, not the other way around. Why do I have a feeling the number of professional massage lessons this guy has ever had is somewhere between zero and none . . . ?
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Jun wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:45 pm Then, just to compound the stupidity, he blocks me.
Similar happened to me in Siem Reap. Chatting with a massage boy on gay online dating, he said he is free NOW, but of course I will go to see him when it suits me, not him, and because I wouldn't go NOW, he blocked me. I knew where he works and spotted him in passing, but If someone can get upset over such a minor difference, there is more trouble ahead, so I gave it a pass.

Blocking someone might not be personal, just a way for them not to see and message your/my profile again. They must send large numbers of messages, and that's the easiest way to remove those potential customers who don't bite / play by their rules? A stupid way to try to do business.
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christianpfc wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:16 pm because I wouldn't go NOW, he blocked me. I knew where he works and spotted him in passing, but If someone can get upset over such a minor difference, there is more trouble ahead, so I gave it a pass
I've had something similar in Pattaya. I messaged a boy who was apparently online.
He replies about 3 hours later, by which time I've already arranged to see a different boy.
So I say "not today".
Then he starts getting stroppy as I can't meet him immediately.

So, of course I decide to never meet him. If I detect signs of attitude issues when chatting, I also assume there will be more attitude issues if we met.

I'm looking for nice sensible lads who know how to conduct business. There are many of them about, but the routine "boy agrees date" examples don't make much of a story.
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Jun wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 7:53 am I messaged a boy who was apparently online.
He may have been. Some of these boys just keep themselves online no matter what else they may be doing, and then check periodically to see if they received any messages. Often it is hours after the message was sent, but they want to come the very instant they spot the message.

Sorry boys, but it doesn't work that way. The sooner (if ever) you realize that, the better for all involved. If you're doing something else, then get offline and check your messages later.
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Gaybutton wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:44 am Some of these boys just keep themselves online no matter what else they may be doing, and then check periodically to see if they received any messages. Often it is hours after the message was sent, but they want to come the very instant they spot the message.
Assuming I'm looking for a boy to meet within a few hours, if the first candidate hasn't replied within a few minutes, I'll contact another one. That's for "new" boys.

Arranging a meeting with boys I know is much more straightforward. Most either contact me asking to meet again or reply to my messages very promptly.
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Jun wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:58 pm if the first candidate hasn't replied within a few minutes, I'll contact another one.
I think it is best to be patient with boys who don't respond quickly. They may be a work and can't respond right away or don't even get a chance to look at their messages immediately. A boy looking for a farang customer would not have a motivation to intentionally delay responding, would he?
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Gaybutton wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:58 am
I think it is best to be patient with boys who don't respond quickly. They may be a work and can't respond right away or don't even get a chance to look at their messages immediately. A boy looking for a farang customer would not have a motivation to intentionally delay responding, would he?
One of the advantages that boys working the apps can enjoy - that they can't enjoy as easily when working a bar - is that they can cherry pick their customers. I wonder if some of the delays that some experience aren't sometimes attributed to this???

I always felt bad for the boys in the gogo bars who were forced to go with whatever farang wanted them. I've always viewed this as the #1 advantage of working freelance on the apps.

In a gogo bar or host bar the customer has total control. On the apps the shoe's on the other foot.
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I suspect the main reasons for a delayed response are that he's sleeping or doing something else.

This is particularly noticeable among boys whose pattern of behaviour often has them online at 5:00 am. This type might send several messages in the middle of the night.

If I wait for that type of boy to reply, I'd need to stay awake for him. That's not going to happen. I'd rather move onto a different prospect.

The ones who don't need our business wouldn't reply at all. That's fair enough. If they have a regular customer in town, why chase anyone else?
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Dodger wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:22 pm In a gogo bar or host bar the customer has total control. On the apps the shoe's on the other foot.
That is a very good point, one that had not occurred to me. Yes, the apps do give the boys controls they would not have in bars. I have been refused a few times, or at least I think I was. No app boys ever actually said no to me in any form. They simply stopped communicating or never responded if I was the one who made first contact. (Can't say I blame them - with my looks they are probably at least thinking "Not no, but HELL no!)

Jun wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:44 pm If they have a regular customer in town, why chase anyone else?
In that case, why even keep a profile online? Perhaps in case an even better offer comes along?
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In host bars, there are no mamasans pushing boys to go with customers, so they have a degree of control.
Although in my experience, the problem is more one of the customer getting too much attention from boys there.

Gaybutton wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:44 pmIn that case, why even keep a profile online? Perhaps in case an even better offer comes along?
All sorts of reasons. I know one lad who I've only ever seen with young farang boyfriends. Three in about 10 years, probably all under 30.
Yet he's occasionally on the apps. I know of at least a couple of board members who didn't get replies. Perhaps he would meet another young farang?
Perhaps he might trade up to a better boyfriend?

Other lads might just be keeping an eye on who is on town, ready for when their current "boyfriend" leaves town.

Perhaps they're not impressed by our profiles? I had one lad who didn't respond to a couple of messages from me. A couple of weeks later, he saw me in a restaurant. He didn't say anything, as he was with his boyfriend. But he messaged me on Grindr shortly afterwards.
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