I don't think we're looking at the same picture. What I'm looking at is here: https://www.pattayamail.com/news/new-pu ... wth-471170
Pattaya City unveils plans for nine-kilometre monorail
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Re: Pattaya City unveils plans for nine-kilometre monorail
Re: Pattaya City unveils plans for nine-kilometre monorail
We're definitely NOT looking at the same artists impression. The Pattaya mail shows the hideous monorail that they seem intent on constructing. If anything, the Bangkok one is worse than the artists impression.Gaybutton wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:09 pm I don't think we're looking at the same picture. What I'm looking at is here: https://www.pattayamail.com/news/new-pu ... wth-471170
I'm referring to the artists impression in The Bangkok Post. Whilst referring to a monorail in the article, the picture shows the kind of tram system they ought to be building: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... orail-plan
I wonder how many of the politicians and how many of the voters in Pattaya have tried both a monorail and a tram system ?
Probably not many, as to experience a tram, they would have to go to Korea, Japan or further afield.
Do they have any idea how superior a tram is to a monorail ?
Of course, this being Thailand, they are probably more interested in who can make money off the construction project than providing practical and efficient public transport.
Last week, I was in Berlin Main Station. I used to think it was big, but despite containing both north south and east west lines, with fast trains and loads of departures, the building is just 860m long. There are convenient connections to trams, buses, S-bahn and the underground.
The Krung Thep Ahpiwat building is 1.6km long, just to run a mickey mouse rail service. The distance from the MRT to the trains is so far, they almost need a bus. This is in a country where people aren't known for walking.
This mess is OK for occasional travel as a tourist, but surely anyone who has to commute every day must be tearing their hair out ?
Re: Pattaya City unveils plans for nine-kilometre monorail
There have been comments on what Thailand can build, in another thread on Casinos. (edited)
Well, they have proven themselves to be perfectly capable of building a monorail. Badly.
The yellow line in Bangkok has a poor ride quality. Exactly how difficult can it be to cast a smooth concrete rail ?
Occasionally pieces fall off it, which is dangerous for other road users & disrupts the service.
I've already commented on the stations, but they're in all the wrong places & difficult to access.
Pattaya is taking this one step further, as the initial line will run "from Thap Phraya intersection on the city’s west side to Nong Mai Kaen in the east".
According to the Bangkok Post.
Now isn't the Thappraya intersection the one with the flyover to third road ? Other than a few Indian tourists, who the hell wants to go there ? I imagine most people who use this will need to continue the trip by Songthaew.
It might just be plausible for a trip from Sunee to Jomtien. Just walk down the hill, across the wasteland, climb 2 flights of steps, spend 40 baht, climb an other flight of steps and after taking the train, climb down 3 flights of steps at the other end.
If they follow the Bangkok example, there will also be tortuous walkways and the stations will be about 300m away from the obvious destinations.
There are proven alternatives to provide a better transport solution at lower cost. I suspect they're interested in the construction contract & don't give a damn about the resulting transport solution.
Well, they have proven themselves to be perfectly capable of building a monorail. Badly.
The yellow line in Bangkok has a poor ride quality. Exactly how difficult can it be to cast a smooth concrete rail ?
Occasionally pieces fall off it, which is dangerous for other road users & disrupts the service.
I've already commented on the stations, but they're in all the wrong places & difficult to access.
Pattaya is taking this one step further, as the initial line will run "from Thap Phraya intersection on the city’s west side to Nong Mai Kaen in the east".
According to the Bangkok Post.
Now isn't the Thappraya intersection the one with the flyover to third road ? Other than a few Indian tourists, who the hell wants to go there ? I imagine most people who use this will need to continue the trip by Songthaew.
It might just be plausible for a trip from Sunee to Jomtien. Just walk down the hill, across the wasteland, climb 2 flights of steps, spend 40 baht, climb an other flight of steps and after taking the train, climb down 3 flights of steps at the other end.
If they follow the Bangkok example, there will also be tortuous walkways and the stations will be about 300m away from the obvious destinations.
There are proven alternatives to provide a better transport solution at lower cost. I suspect they're interested in the construction contract & don't give a damn about the resulting transport solution.