Opening a Thai bank account just got tougher

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Gaybutton wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 12:42 pm I don't understand this part. As long as you were in Thailand why couldn't you get the letter while in the bank and just take it with you? Also, since you were in Thailand, assuming you meet the requirements why didn't you go to immigration here and get the "O" visa, which I think is far preferable to the "O-A" visa?

I know I must be missing something.
Perhaps I should have been clearer. I was here in early January, but wasn’t planning on coming back until I had my visa after retiring from the government. I normally would have been back for another month in May, but the 4 month wait was too long. The embassy required that the letter be recent. Hindsight is normally 20/20 and I certainly could have done as you suggest. I was too occupied in setting up my Social Security, dropping Medicare Part B, arranging the moving company, and training people who were going to take my place. The trip to the embassy to get the visa was just another item on the to do list.😊

Dodger wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 12:41 pm The requirement for Proof of Income showing either 800k in a Thai bank or a minimum monthly foreign income of 65k only applies to expats who want to extend their annual visa's. This is not a requirement for obtaining the initial O-A visa. This is probably why the girl looked at you strangely.

It appears that you may have misinterpreted what you read on the embassy website.
There was no misunderstanding or misinterpretation on what I read. The embassy doesn’t do extensions, only the initial original visa for entry to the kingdom. She was irritated because I showed her the actual website for the embassy which stated very clearly that the funds had to be deposited in a Thai bank. In any case, she accepted the proof of 800,000 Baht from Bangkok Bank and all ended well. It was also not my first OA visa from the embassy.
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DragonMaster wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 4:25 pm It was also not my first OA visa from the embassy.
Ok, I was going to say you could have waited until you returned to Thailand and gotten the "O" visa here rather than the "O-A". But since you had done "O-A" before I think that might not have been possible. My understanding is once someone gets the "O-A", now it's always the "O-A" - no switching over to the "O". Is that correct?
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Gaybutton wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 5:59 pm
My understanding is once someone gets the "O-A", now it's always the "O-A" - no switching over to the "O". Is that correct?
From what I understand you cannot change an OA (Long Stay) visa to a Non-Immigrant O visa unless you leave the Thailand...cancel your OA visa... and then apply for the Non-Immigrant O visa upon re-entry.

It's rumored that there are agents that can help streamline this process considerably.

I'm not sure why anybody would want to change, unless in fact they wanted to avoid having health insurance. And even then there's no guarantee that O visa holders won't be hit with a health insurance mandate at some juncture anyway.
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We're getting off the subject of banking regulations. Let's get back to it.
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Bangkok Bank Appears to Tighten Account Policies for Some Foreign Nationals Amid Financial Fraud Concerns

By Adam Judd

May 29, 2025

Bangkok Bank, Thailand’s largest commercial bank and a leading financial institution in Southeast Asia, has implemented stricter regulations for some foreign nationals seeking to open or maintain bank accounts, effective from January 2025. The policy shift, aimed at combating financial fraud, has impacted tourists and expatriates without long-term visas, with some people allegedly reporting account freezes and restricted access to banking services.

As of January 2025, Bangkok Bank has officially ceased allowing foreign tourists, regardless of nationality, to open new bank accounts under tourist visas. This includes holders of the Destination Thailand Visa (DTV), which permits stays of up to 180 days but is categorized as a tourist visa. Only foreigners with long-term, non-immigrant visas—such as those issued for work, study, or family reasons—or retirement visas are eligible to open accounts. These measures also extend to applications for credit cards and mobile banking services, reflecting a broader effort to strengthen financial oversight.

A Bangkok Bank spokesperson clarified that the restrictions are part of enhanced internal regulatory standards to mitigate risks associated with money laundering, terrorism financing, and fraud. The bank has added that these changes align with Thailand’s broader efforts to curb financial crimes, particularly following the discovery of illegal activities involving foreign accounts used in foreign scam call centers.

The policy has also affected existing accounts held by foreigners without long-term visas. Starting around May 25, 2025, Bangkok Bank reportedly began freezing accounts and blocking bank cards, particularly targeting Russian nationals who do not meet the new eligibility criteria, according to reports online from social media users. According to the Bangkok Community Help Foundation, affected customers have been advised to contact the bank to verify their account status. In some cases, clients are required to visit a bank branch in person to resolve issues, which may involve providing biometric data, such as facial scans, to comply with updated security protocols along with providing proof of a valid visa status.

A spokesperson for Bangkok Bank noted that a blocked account does not necessarily mean it will be closed. Instead, clients may be asked to visit a branch to address compliance issues, though specific details on the resolution process remain limited.
Bangkok Bank is NOT shutting down all foreign accounts despite some incorrect rumors online and anyone who has the appropriate long term visa would face no issues, said bank representatives.

The tightened regulations follow recent incidents highlighting financial fraud in Thailand. On May 21st, 2025, Thai authorities arrested four employees of an unnamed bank in Pattaya for allegedly facilitating the opening of accounts for foreigners on tourist visas, which were allegedly used to launder funds for Chinese crime syndicates.

Additionally, Thailand has introduced new SIM ID rules and other security measures to combat financial crimes, which have contributed to the banking sector’s heightened scrutiny of foreign accounts.

The policy changes have created challenges for tourists and short-term visitors who previously relied on Bangkok Bank for local financial services. The bank, once known for its accessibility to foreigners, including those on short-term stays, has shifted to a more restrictive approach. Foreign customers of other Thai banks, such as Kasikorn Bank, Siam Commercial Bank, and Krungthai Bank, have also been advised to verify their account status, as similar measures may be adopted industry-wide.

For expatriates with long-term visas, such as non-immigrant “O” retirement permits requiring a minimum deposit of 800,000 THB, or proper student visas, opening accounts remains possible but may involve additional documentation and verification. Legitimate work visas and work permit holders are also not affected by any new restrictions.

Bangkok Bank has not issued a comprehensive public statement detailing the full scope of the crackdown, but representatives have confirmed the policy applies uniformly to all tourists, regardless of nationality, and will assess accounts based on potential risk through a process that has not been made public. The bank encourages affected customers to contact branches directly to address account issues. If the customer has not received a SMS or alert from the bank, however, they are at this time unaffected and would only need to visit a branch in person if they experience an issue with their services or receive a message to their phone number on file.

Bangkok Bank’s crackdown on foreign accounts reflects a strategic response to rising financial fraud and regulatory pressures in Thailand. By limiting account access for tourists and short-term visitors, the bank aims to safeguard its operations and comply with national anti-fraud initiatives.

This is a developing story and as details are clarified or explained further may be updated, notes The Pattaya News.

https://tpnnational.com/2025/05/29/bang ... -concerns/
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Dodger wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 12:41 pmThe requirement for Proof of Income showing either 800k in a Thai bank or a minimum monthly foreign income of 65k only applies to expats who want to extend their annual visa's. This is not a requirement for obtaining the initial O-A visa.
Dodger wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 2:42 pm When I applied for the O-A in 2018 I only had to submit a pay voucher showing that I earned at least 65,000 THB/Month. After I completed one year of residence in Thailand on the O-A visa I had to prove that a minimum of 65,000 THB/month was being transferred to my Thai bank to get my extension.
So you
1 Apply for an O-A visa from your own country, valid for 1 year. Proof of income or funds is required, but it does not have to be in a Thai account.
2 Anyone who doesn't have a bank account can then open it as a resident and it's ready for the renewal, one year later ?
Not that this will affect me, but I'm just making sure I understand.


O-A is second on the list.
https://www.thaievisa.go.th/visa/retirement
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Jun wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 12:25 am
Dodger wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 12:41 pmThe requirement for Proof of Income showing either 800k in a Thai bank or a minimum monthly foreign income of 65k only applies to expats who want to extend their annual visa's. This is not a requirement for obtaining the initial O-A visa.
Dodger wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 2:42 pm When I applied for the O-A in 2018 I only had to submit a pay voucher showing that I earned at least 65,000 THB/Month. After I completed one year of residence in Thailand on the O-A visa I had to prove that a minimum of 65,000 THB/month was being transferred to my Thai bank to get my extension.
So you
1 Apply for an O-A visa from your own country, valid for 1 year. Proof of income or funds is required, but does not have to be in a Thai account.
2 Anyone who doesn't have a bank account can then open it as a resident and it's ready for the renewal, one year later ?
Not that this will affect me, but I'm just making sure I understand.


O-A is second on the list.
https://www.thaievisa.go.th/visa/retirement
As usual Jun you find a need to post on almost every topic whether it affects you or not, if I didn’t know better I'd think you were a hideous bore with not much going on in your day to day.
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Undaunted wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 12:31 am As usual Jun you find a need to post on almost every topic wether it affects you or not, if I didn’t know better i’de think you were a hideous bore with not much going on in your day to day.
Fortunately your posts are rare, but your persistent unenthusiastic views on Thailand & anything else still form an impression.
If I didn't know better, I'd think you were a pessimist, with not much to look forward to in your day to day life.

[As it happens, the comments on the visa are relevant to me, but the bank account issue isn't]
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So you
1 Apply for an O-A visa from your own country, valid for 1 year. Proof of income or funds is required, but it does not have to be in a Thai account.
2 Anyone who doesn't have a bank account can then open it as a resident and it's ready for the renewal, one year later ?
Not that this will affect me, but I'm just making sure I understand.


O-A is second on the list.
https://www.thaievisa.go.th/visa/retirement
Dodger is correct.

To obtain the O-A category Non-Immigrant Visa, you do not have to have the 800k baht in a Thai bank, it can be in a foreign bank account (or in Dodger's case show evidence of a monthly income of at least 65k baht). The O-A does provide for a permission to stay upon entry into Thailand of one year (or expiration date of your required health insurance whichever is less). This long term stay should be sufficient to open a Thai bank account - but it will depend on the Thai bank's policy and/or the whims of the particular branch where you apply for the account.

If you wish to renew your "permission to stay" at a Thai Immigration Office and are using the 800k in the bank method, it must be in a Thai bank for at least 2 months before applying for the extension of stay and remain there for another 3 months. At all other times, it must not go below 400k baht. If using the 65k baht monthly income method, then you will need to show at least that amount has been transferred into your Thai bank account in each of the 12 months preceding the application for extension.

Also for those that entered Thailand using an O-A visa, Immigration will require proof of health insurance from a Thai insurance company (when applying for the O-A visa, the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs [Embassies/Consulates] will accept a foreign health insurance provider's certificate in the format they require). The extension will be for one year from the end date of your current permission to stay or expiration date of your health insurance whichever is less.

The Pattaya City Expats Club has information on their website regarding Thai Immigration matters including requirements for entry and extensions. Visit https://pcec.club , click on the Thai Immigration topic at the top of the home page (if you hover your cursor over the Thai Immigration Topic, a drop down menu will appear where you can choose to go direct to the listed sub topics).
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Reminder: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS!!! Not on my board.

This topic is about opening a Thai bank account. Please stick to that.

Those who want to attack and/or insult each other, you are free to do so by PM, but not on the publicly visible board.
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