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"Cambodia Still not stopping the bombing"
The Thailand-Cambodia border dispute
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Re: The Thailand-Cambodia border dispute
I expect someone living in Cambodia would probably write "Thailand still not stopped the bombing".
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Re: The Thailand-Cambodia border dispute
I hope they really will ceasefire and that it will hold. We will see.
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Thailand and Cambodia agree to ceasefire after days of deadly clashes
By Kristie Lu Stout, Lauren Kent, Len Lang
July 28, 2025
Cambodia and Thailand have agreed to an “immediate and unconditional ceasefire” beginning at midnight local time following days of clashes across the two countries’ disputed border.
The nations will convene a meeting of regional commanders from the Cambodian and Thai sides on Tuesday, July 29, according to Malaysian Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim, who mediated peace talks as the current chair of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), the regional bloc.
Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Manet and acting Thai Prime Minister Phumtham Wechayachai met at the Prime Minister’s official residence in Putrajaya, just south of the capital Kuala Lumpur.
Both sides have accused the other of starting the latest border flare-up, and traded blame for the ongoing fighting, which has killed at least 35 people and injured more than 200, according to figures from Thai and Cambodian officials. The dispute over their border goes back decades.
The leaders indicated in a joint news conference that fighting will stop immediately, even as clashes continued on Monday morning in the hours before the peace talks. Cambodian authorities accused Thailand of striking at least two locations in the early hours, while the Thai army said clashes were taking place in three provinces.
The United States and China also offered observers’ assistance in the ceasefire negotiations. US State Department officials were on the ground Monday to assist with the negotiations, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said.
US President Donald Trump announced on Saturday that the Southeast Asian nations had agreed to ceasefire talks, but localized fighting continued throughout the weekend. Trump said he warned the Thai and Cambodian leaders that he would not make trade deals with either country if the deadly border conflict continued.
“This is an important step towards reducing tensions and restoring peace and security,” Hun Manet said in a statement, in which he thanked the Malaysian prime minister, the Chinese government and Donald Trump specifically for their support in the negotiation process.
He also announced that the two countries will establish a Cambodian-Thai General Boundary Committee, which will hold an initial meeting on August 4, hosted by Cambodia.
https://us.cnn.com/2025/07/28/asia/thai ... efire-intl
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Thailand and Cambodia agree to ceasefire after days of deadly clashes
By Kristie Lu Stout, Lauren Kent, Len Lang
July 28, 2025
Cambodia and Thailand have agreed to an “immediate and unconditional ceasefire” beginning at midnight local time following days of clashes across the two countries’ disputed border.
The nations will convene a meeting of regional commanders from the Cambodian and Thai sides on Tuesday, July 29, according to Malaysian Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim, who mediated peace talks as the current chair of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), the regional bloc.
Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Manet and acting Thai Prime Minister Phumtham Wechayachai met at the Prime Minister’s official residence in Putrajaya, just south of the capital Kuala Lumpur.
Both sides have accused the other of starting the latest border flare-up, and traded blame for the ongoing fighting, which has killed at least 35 people and injured more than 200, according to figures from Thai and Cambodian officials. The dispute over their border goes back decades.
The leaders indicated in a joint news conference that fighting will stop immediately, even as clashes continued on Monday morning in the hours before the peace talks. Cambodian authorities accused Thailand of striking at least two locations in the early hours, while the Thai army said clashes were taking place in three provinces.
The United States and China also offered observers’ assistance in the ceasefire negotiations. US State Department officials were on the ground Monday to assist with the negotiations, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said.
US President Donald Trump announced on Saturday that the Southeast Asian nations had agreed to ceasefire talks, but localized fighting continued throughout the weekend. Trump said he warned the Thai and Cambodian leaders that he would not make trade deals with either country if the deadly border conflict continued.
“This is an important step towards reducing tensions and restoring peace and security,” Hun Manet said in a statement, in which he thanked the Malaysian prime minister, the Chinese government and Donald Trump specifically for their support in the negotiation process.
He also announced that the two countries will establish a Cambodian-Thai General Boundary Committee, which will hold an initial meeting on August 4, hosted by Cambodia.
https://us.cnn.com/2025/07/28/asia/thai ... efire-intl
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Re: The Thailand-Cambodia border dispute
Well, in which format did most of the discussions take place ?
In the room with everyone else present or the more convivial setting with the armchairs ? The Cambodian guy did not even appear to need anyone to assist with translation.
Note how they diplomatically avoided placing the US & Chinese "police" on the same side of the room as their respective allies.
Let's hope that this ceasefire holds.
In the room with everyone else present or the more convivial setting with the armchairs ? The Cambodian guy did not even appear to need anyone to assist with translation.
Note how they diplomatically avoided placing the US & Chinese "police" on the same side of the room as their respective allies.
Let's hope that this ceasefire holds.
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Thailand and Cambodia truce agreement comes into effect
July 29, 2025
A truce agreement between Thailand and Cambodia came into effect in the early hours of Tuesday, testing whether it will halt five days of open combat that have engulfed their jungle-clad frontier.
Both sides agreed an "unconditional" ceasefire would start at midnight on Monday to end battling over a smattering of ancient temples in disputed zones along their 800-kilometre (500-mile) border.
In the Cambodian city of Samraong -- 20 kilometres from the border -- an AFP journalist heard a steady drumbeat of artillery strikes throughout Monday, before the blast sounds stopped in the 30 minutes leading up to midnight.
Jets, rockets and artillery have killed at least 38 people since Thursday and displaced nearly 300,000 more -- prompting intervention from US President Donald Trump over the weekend.
The flare-up was the deadliest since violence raged sporadically from 2008-2011 over the territory, claimed by both because of a vague demarcation made by Cambodia's French colonial administrators in 1907.
The peace deal is set to see military commanders from both sides meet at 07:00am (0000 GMT), before a cross-border committee is convened in Cambodia to further salve tensions on August 4.
"When I heard the news I was so happy because I miss my home and my belongings that I left behind," Phean Neth told AFP on Monday evening at a sprawling camp for Cambodian evacuees on a temple site away from the fighting.
"I am so happy that I can't describe it," said the 45-year-old.
A joint statement from both countries, as well as Malaysia which hosted the peace talks, said the ceasefire was "a vital first step towards de-escalation and the restoration of peace and security".
Both sides are courting Trump for trade deals to avert his threat of eye-watering tariffs, and the US State Department said its officials had been "on the ground" to shepherd peace talks.
The joint statement said China also had "active participation" in the talks, hosted by Malaysian Prime Minister and Asean bloc chair Anwar Ibrahim in his country's administrative capital Putrajaya.
Cambodia's Prime Minister Hun Manet thanked Trump for his "decisive" support, while his counterpart, Thai acting Prime Minister Phumtham Wechayachai, said it should be "carried out in good faith by both sides".
"If they say they'll stop firing, they must stop completely," said 43-year-old Thai evacuee Prapakarn Samruamjit in the city of Surin.
- 'Highly tense' -
On the eve of the talks, Thailand's military said Cambodian snipers were camped in one of the contested temples, and accused Phnom Penh of surging troops along the border and hammering Thai territory with rockets.
It said there was fighting at seven areas in the rural region, marked by a ridge of hills surrounded by wild jungle and fields where locals farm rubber and rice.
Thai King Maha Vajiralongkorn marked his 73rd birthday on Monday, but a notice in the country's Royal Gazette said public celebrations scheduled for Bangkok's Grand Palace had been cancelled amid the strife.
Trump has threatened both countries with high levies in his global tariff blitz unless they agree to independent trade deals -- but said he would "look forward" to signing them once "peace is at hand".
Each side had already agreed to a truce in principle, while accusing the other of undermining peace efforts and trading allegations about the use of cluster bombs and targeting of hospitals.
Thailand says 11 of its soldiers and 14 civilians have been killed, while Cambodia has confirmed only eight civilian and five military deaths.
However, the Thai military said it has returned the bodies of 12 Cambodian soldiers killed in combat.
More than 138,000 people have fled Thailand's border regions, while around 140,000 have been driven from their homes in Cambodia.
With the skirmish enflaming nationalist sentiments, Thailand warned its citizens to "refrain from any kind of violence, whether in speech or action" against Cambodian migrants living in the country.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/30771 ... nto-effect
July 29, 2025
A truce agreement between Thailand and Cambodia came into effect in the early hours of Tuesday, testing whether it will halt five days of open combat that have engulfed their jungle-clad frontier.
Both sides agreed an "unconditional" ceasefire would start at midnight on Monday to end battling over a smattering of ancient temples in disputed zones along their 800-kilometre (500-mile) border.
In the Cambodian city of Samraong -- 20 kilometres from the border -- an AFP journalist heard a steady drumbeat of artillery strikes throughout Monday, before the blast sounds stopped in the 30 minutes leading up to midnight.
Jets, rockets and artillery have killed at least 38 people since Thursday and displaced nearly 300,000 more -- prompting intervention from US President Donald Trump over the weekend.
The flare-up was the deadliest since violence raged sporadically from 2008-2011 over the territory, claimed by both because of a vague demarcation made by Cambodia's French colonial administrators in 1907.
The peace deal is set to see military commanders from both sides meet at 07:00am (0000 GMT), before a cross-border committee is convened in Cambodia to further salve tensions on August 4.
"When I heard the news I was so happy because I miss my home and my belongings that I left behind," Phean Neth told AFP on Monday evening at a sprawling camp for Cambodian evacuees on a temple site away from the fighting.
"I am so happy that I can't describe it," said the 45-year-old.
A joint statement from both countries, as well as Malaysia which hosted the peace talks, said the ceasefire was "a vital first step towards de-escalation and the restoration of peace and security".
Both sides are courting Trump for trade deals to avert his threat of eye-watering tariffs, and the US State Department said its officials had been "on the ground" to shepherd peace talks.
The joint statement said China also had "active participation" in the talks, hosted by Malaysian Prime Minister and Asean bloc chair Anwar Ibrahim in his country's administrative capital Putrajaya.
Cambodia's Prime Minister Hun Manet thanked Trump for his "decisive" support, while his counterpart, Thai acting Prime Minister Phumtham Wechayachai, said it should be "carried out in good faith by both sides".
"If they say they'll stop firing, they must stop completely," said 43-year-old Thai evacuee Prapakarn Samruamjit in the city of Surin.
- 'Highly tense' -
On the eve of the talks, Thailand's military said Cambodian snipers were camped in one of the contested temples, and accused Phnom Penh of surging troops along the border and hammering Thai territory with rockets.
It said there was fighting at seven areas in the rural region, marked by a ridge of hills surrounded by wild jungle and fields where locals farm rubber and rice.
Thai King Maha Vajiralongkorn marked his 73rd birthday on Monday, but a notice in the country's Royal Gazette said public celebrations scheduled for Bangkok's Grand Palace had been cancelled amid the strife.
Trump has threatened both countries with high levies in his global tariff blitz unless they agree to independent trade deals -- but said he would "look forward" to signing them once "peace is at hand".
Each side had already agreed to a truce in principle, while accusing the other of undermining peace efforts and trading allegations about the use of cluster bombs and targeting of hospitals.
Thailand says 11 of its soldiers and 14 civilians have been killed, while Cambodia has confirmed only eight civilian and five military deaths.
However, the Thai military said it has returned the bodies of 12 Cambodian soldiers killed in combat.
More than 138,000 people have fled Thailand's border regions, while around 140,000 have been driven from their homes in Cambodia.
With the skirmish enflaming nationalist sentiments, Thailand warned its citizens to "refrain from any kind of violence, whether in speech or action" against Cambodian migrants living in the country.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/30771 ... nto-effect
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Re: The Thailand-Cambodia border dispute
Oh well, that didn't last very long. Why am I not surprised?
Still on my "I Don't Get It" list is why Cambodia is doing this. It is obvious Cambodia doesn't stand a chance if a real war breaks out. What is Cambodia trying to do?
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Thai army condemns Cambodia for breaking ceasefire agreement
July 29, 2025
The Thai army on Tuesday condemns Cambodia for intentionally breaking a ceasefire agreement which took effect at 12am Tuesday, by firing at many Thai locations afterwards.
Thai army spokesman Maj Gen Winthai Suvaree said at the army headquarters Tuesday morning that after midnight Cambodia fired its weapons at many areas on the Thai soil.
The Royal Thai Army said in a statement that Cambodia fired at Thai locations in Chong An Ma, Chong Bok, Prasat Ta Kwai, Phu Makhuea and Sam Tae areas.
“That is the intention to violate the (ceasefire) agreement and ruin a mutual trust system. The army condemns the act,” Maj Gen Winthai said.
The army spokesman said that Thailand had to carry out retaliatory measures properly in accordance with its legitimate right to self-defence.
He said that Thailand did not make any invasion but was blocking incursion and protecting its sovereignty in compliance with international rules.
Thailand complied strictly with the ceasefire agreement by stopping firing immediately at midnight, Maj Gen Winthai said.
The spokesman also said that local military commanders from both sides were still trying to have a discussion on Tuesday and the meeting was rescheduled at 10am.
There were reports that regional army commanders of both sides would meet at the Chong Chom border crossing in Thailand's Surin province.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -agreement
Still on my "I Don't Get It" list is why Cambodia is doing this. It is obvious Cambodia doesn't stand a chance if a real war breaks out. What is Cambodia trying to do?
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Thai army condemns Cambodia for breaking ceasefire agreement
July 29, 2025
The Thai army on Tuesday condemns Cambodia for intentionally breaking a ceasefire agreement which took effect at 12am Tuesday, by firing at many Thai locations afterwards.
Thai army spokesman Maj Gen Winthai Suvaree said at the army headquarters Tuesday morning that after midnight Cambodia fired its weapons at many areas on the Thai soil.
The Royal Thai Army said in a statement that Cambodia fired at Thai locations in Chong An Ma, Chong Bok, Prasat Ta Kwai, Phu Makhuea and Sam Tae areas.
“That is the intention to violate the (ceasefire) agreement and ruin a mutual trust system. The army condemns the act,” Maj Gen Winthai said.
The army spokesman said that Thailand had to carry out retaliatory measures properly in accordance with its legitimate right to self-defence.
He said that Thailand did not make any invasion but was blocking incursion and protecting its sovereignty in compliance with international rules.
Thailand complied strictly with the ceasefire agreement by stopping firing immediately at midnight, Maj Gen Winthai said.
The spokesman also said that local military commanders from both sides were still trying to have a discussion on Tuesday and the meeting was rescheduled at 10am.
There were reports that regional army commanders of both sides would meet at the Chong Chom border crossing in Thailand's Surin province.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -agreement
Re: The Thailand-Cambodia border dispute
1. What army would want to have a little victorious war with obvious political ramifications?
2. What government does not control its own army?
2. What government does not control its own army?
Re: The Thailand-Cambodia border dispute
Harald has nailed it.
Also:
3. Which side could win a war ?
4. Which side didn't want to negotiate until Trump threatened to stop trade talks ?
Also:
3. Which side could win a war ?
4. Which side didn't want to negotiate until Trump threatened to stop trade talks ?