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Personally I am much more concerned about how effective the vaccines really are in preventing Covid than I am about side effects. While a risk exists that side effects can occur, the risk is minimal and temporary. While deaths have occurred, they are extremely rare. I would rather risk the side effects than risk contracting Covid, especially since I am not getting any younger.
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Side effects to look out for after Covid-19 jab

by The Nation

June 11, 2021

Most people (90.27 per cent) had no side effects after getting their Covid-19 jab, the National Research Council of Thailand and the Higher Education, Science, Research and Innovation Ministry reported on Friday.

Among those who have received a Covid-19 jab, only 9.73 per cent reported some side effects, the most common being muscle pain, headache and pain where the jab was taken.

Even though the vaccines being administered have been approved by the Food and Drug Administration, people are still advised to observe their symptoms and seek medical help if they worsen.

Assoc Prof Dr Panpit Suwangool, an infectious diseases specialist at Bangkok Hospital, is advising people to consume a lot of water to avoid blood clots and take paracetamol (available over the counter) for fever or headache.

“People who develop a rash, high fever, dizziness, muscle weakness or pain in the chest should see a doctor immediately,” she said.

She also urged people to continue wearing facemasks, wash hands regularly and maintain social distancing. She added that people who have visited high-risk areas or come in contact with Covid-19 patients must go into self-isolation for 14 days.

“People who have been infected with Covid-19 should receive their jab three months later because there is no information on the duration of immunity after infection,” she added.

https://www.nationthailand.com/life/40001926

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My brother lives in Brisbane and had the AZ jab last week. He experienced flu like symptoms - aching muscles all over and chills - but after a restless night, they had gone by the morning.

Here's a thought. When the boys finally return to the bars, will they be asked for their vaccine status before being offed? Or will the customer rely solely on their vaccine status?

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thewayhelooks wrote:
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When the boys finally return to the bars, will they be asked for their vaccine status before being offed? Or will the customer rely solely on their vaccine status?
I think the boys will say they have been vaccinated whether they really have or not. They want to be taken off. But if the customer has been vaccinated, doesn't that mean he is immunized and now it doesn't make any difference whether the boys have been vaccinated?

I hope the bars will be required to only hire boys who have been vaccinated and can prove it. Whether the bars will comply if there is such a requirement is another matter. But don't forget that Covid is not the only disease that can result from taking a boy off. In other words, the responsibility is yours and you're on your own.

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Oh well, two ambassadors anyway - Belgium and France. And since most reading this and living in Thailand are from neither Belgium nor France, what are our own ambassadors doing? Nothing. Not a word on our behalf out of any of them. What a surprise . . .

Before reaching the point in my life when I wasn't so naive anymore I used to think ambassadors were to be highly respected and doing highly important work. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have come to think just about any idiot can do the job of ambassador. All that is needed is a person who makes sure he is inaccessible, perfectly capable of doing little more than sitting on his butt, and kissing the asses of people and government officials in high places. I've seen little evidence of anything else, and that goes back especially when the embassies started refusing to give us the proof-of-income letters, even for those who could easily prove it. Not a word that I recall from any of them protesting the move.

If we all start dying of Covid, all I expect out of the embassies is keeping statistical records, but doing virtually nothing else about it.

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Ambassadors Seek COVID-19 Vaccinations for Their Citizens

11 June 2021

Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said Belgian ambassador Sibille de Cartier d’Yves asked the government to speed up COVID-19 vaccinations for Belgians in Thailand including those living on Phuket and Samui islands. Most Belgians in Thailand were members of the Social Security Fund and the Public Health Ministry would meet the request, Mr Anutin said.

Besides, he said new French ambassador Thierry Mathou met him and asked the Public Health Ministry to permit the import of 10,000 doses of Johnson & Johnson vaccine for inoculation with the French people who lived in Thailand. The lot was expected to arrive in late June, Mr Anutin said.

Regarding COVID-19 inoculation in tourism-related areas, Mr Anutin said that the vaccinations already covered 60% of people in Phuket province and 65% on Samui island. (TNA)

https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-715163

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I think the boys will say they have been vaccinated whether they really have or not. They want to be taken off. But if the customer has been vaccinated, doesn't that mean he is immunized and now it doesn't make any difference whether the boys have been vaccinated?
Vaccinations do not prevent people transmitting covid to others & they merely reduce the risk of transmission. So I wouldn't say it ought to make much difference to our decision making.
Rather like when someone invites me to remove the condom as he's on PREP, there are a whole list of reasons why I decline. I believe PREP is not 100% effective, I don't know if he really takes it, I don't know if he's bought some fake PREP and I'm not sure how much benefit I get from his PREP either.

In the UK, which had a covid higher infection rate, I went out and booked a massage about 10 days after MY first dose of vaccine. I didn't ask about his vaccine status. Rightly or wrongly, that's how I make the decisions.

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The last sentence of the article says, "Eligibility to receive the Sinopharm vaccine will be restricted to people whose homes are registered in Pattaya City who have not been inoculated with another Covid-19 vaccine."

I don't think people, such as me, who live on "The Dark Side" are considered residents of Pattaya City, but I might attempt to register anyway and see what happens, although even if my registration is accepted I will probably still hold out for Moderna.

As I see it, limiting eligibility only to residents of Pattaya City is a mistake. What about people who live outside the city zone, but work in Pattaya? What about people who do live in Pattaya City, but for whatever reason their residence is considered ineligible.

The article does not say whether farang will be eligible whether they live in Pattaya City or not.

I thought the goal is to get everybody vaccinated. Seems to me, this is hardly the way to do it.
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Pattaya readies registration form for Sinopharm vaccinations

By Pattaya Mail

June 24, 2021

Pattaya will soon roll out an online registration form to allow city residents to sign up for Covid-19 vaccinations from a new shipment of the Chinese vaccine it purchased.

Pattaya earlier this month ordered 100,000 doses of BBIBP-CorV developed by China National Pharmaceutical Group, which is commonly known as Sinopharm. The city spent 8.8 million baht of its own budget to procure vaccines directly from Chulabhorn Royal Academy as the central government has not allocated Chonburi enough doses to allow it to reopen to foreign tourists by October.

Pattaya has not received the 100,000 doses, although the vaccines landed in Thailand this week. No date has been announced for the vaccinations.

On June 21, Mayor Sonthaya Kunplome chaired a planning meeting with Public Health and Social Welfare department staffers and doctors from Pattaya Hospital that mostly focused on creating a registration form separate from the government’s Mor Prom mobile application.

Sonthaya said registration will be done online, but also would be accessible for people without smartphones. No estimate was given on when the form would be available.

Eligibility to receive the Sinopharm vaccine will be restricted to people whose homes are registered in Pattaya City who have not been inoculated with another Covid-19 vaccine.

https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattay ... ons-360771

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I thought the goal is to get everybody vaccinated.
I expect that's the eventual goal, however who they prioritize on the way there is another question.

We have noted these "sandbox" schemes to restart tourism. These require 70% of the entire population to be vaccinated in the specified tourist areas first. Now bear in mind that countries which have been vaccinating for over 6 months, like the US and UK have not vaccinated 70% of the entire population yet. The UK has vaccinated over 80% of the adult population and about 64% of the entire population.

I don't know what the boundaries will be for this Pattaya sandbox scheme, but if Pattaya has a limited supply of vaccines, they might consider deploying them inside the boundaries first in order to get over the 70% mark.

I'm not saying that would be a correct decision. What is clear, is if they want 70% vaccination to get these sandbox schemes off the ground, they will be waiting until well into 2022 if they vaccinate the entire country at the same pace. So that doesn't fit the declared timeline. So are they looking at uneven geographic distribution of the vaccination to achieve this ?

Some other countries vaccinated by priority of age, which is probably fairer. The side effect is killing off the sandbox schemes for months & prolonging the economic problems in tourist areas.

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As I see it, limiting eligibility only to residents of Pattaya City is a mistake. What about people who live outside the city zone, but work in Pattaya? What about people who do live in Pattaya City, but for whatever reason their residence is considered ineligible.
Based on the articles I have read, the doses they are referring to are for Sinopharm (from China) which is being imported and paid for by the Chulabhorn Royal Academy which they have made available to other organizations who must buy them - 888 baht per dose as I recall.

Pattaya City has ordered 100,000 doses of Sinopharm and will buy them from Chulabhorn Royal Academy. Since they are using City funds for the purchase, IMO it stands to reason they would limit it to citizen's of Pattaya. Since houses & condos in Pattaya will have a blue house book, my guess is that to qualify one must show they are registered in a Pattaya house book (foreign owners who have a yellow house book might qualify). It does leave out any who reside in Pattaya but are not registered in a Pattaya house book (this would include my Thai partner - like many Thais he remains registered in a house book in the Province where he is from).

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Also, what about renters?? I owned/lived in my condo for 20 years … sold it two years ago to new owner who rents it back to me. How will I qualify as a resident? No longer with one of those books. Further, there are lots of renters in Pattaya…. None have one of those books.

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Daleinpattaya wrote:
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there are lots of renters in Pattaya…. None have one of those books.
That is just part of the problem, which is why I think this is a moronic way to do this. And we don't even know yet whether farang will be included.

To me, what would make much more sense is evidence that you live within certain postal codes (same as Zip Codes, Americans) whether you own, rent, or whatever. Of course, they're not doing it that way.

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