Another Year - Retirement Extension Approved

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All this sounds a bit convoluted to me.

If you are a newbie, I suspect you cant get a retirement visa with just the 65k per month as you wouldn't have 12 months of sending it.

Secondly, does this 65k per month have to be from government pensions or state pensions or can it just be from a bank account.

I won't ask any more questions just yet. 2 is enuf.

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whitedesire wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 7:48 am
does this 65k per month have to be from government pensions or state pensions or can it just be from a bank account.
As long as you can prove that at least 65,000 baht was deposited into your Thai bank account from abroad for 12 consecutive months, they don't care what the source of the money is.

I don't know how that works now for first time retirement visa applicants, but however it works, if it were me I would be trying to get the retirement visa within Thailand rather than from your home country. That way you would have the "O" visa instead of the "O-A".

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Re: Another Year - Retirement Extension Approved

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whitedesire wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 7:48 am
All this sounds a bit convoluted to me.

If you are a newbie, I suspect you cant get a retirement visa with just the 65k per month as you wouldn't have 12 months of sending it.

Secondly, does this 65k per month have to be from government pensions or state pensions or can it just be from a bank account.

I won't ask any more questions just yet. 2 is enuf.
The Pattaya City Expats Club's website shows the following is required by Pattaya Immigration (https://pcec.club/Chonburi-Immigration):
Holders of passports from the United Kingdom, United States of America, and Australia, are required to prove they have the equivalent of at least 65,000 baht in monthly income.

Immigration rule requires the applicant show they have transferred at least the equivalent of 65,000 baht into their Thai bank account, as follows:

Funds must be from a foreign source
Fund must be transferred in each and every month as follows (no averaging):
First time application for extension, period should for 2 or 3 month before application for extension.
Renewal of extension, period is required to be for the 12 months preceding the application for extension.
As to evidence of source, their website shows:
Photocopy of document showing source of income (e.g., Statement of Pension amount from source not over 6 months old may be asked for by the Immigration Officer)

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"As to evidence of source, their website shows:

Photocopy of document showing source of income (e.g., Statement of Pension amount from source not over 6 months old may be asked for by the Immigration Officer)"

In the old days, when Americans could use the affidavit of income from our Embassy, I always brought documentation with me (tax returns, pension letters, SS statements, etc.) although I was never asked for it. When I visited immigration, my pension letter and SS statement was part of the document package noted and accepted by reviewing immigration official.

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Re: Another Year - Retirement Extension Approved

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I did my extension today. I decided to stick with the 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account method this time around. Maybe I'm too paranoid, but I just don't trust that immigration rules won't change yet again due to the Covid crisis. I decided against going with the 65,000 baht per month method and just keeping the 800,000 baht in the account anyway. I didn't want to chance the temptation to spend it until I am quite certain Thailand won't change the rules. I've lived with it this long, so I'll just have to live with it one more time. We'll see how it goes next year - if I'm still alive. I'm not getting any younger.

If you choose the 800,000 baht method, they still give the form requiring you to go again 3 months later with your updated bank passbook to prove you still have at least 800,000 baht in the account and never went below 800,000 baht.

You know something? I have no idea what happens if you do let your account fall below 800,000 before the 3 months is up. And I don't want to find out the hard way.

I made an appointment with immigration using the QueQ app. Making the appointment was quite simple. You choose the date and time you want and choose from a dropdown list of reasons for the appointment. "Retirement Visa" was one of the choices. Once you've done that, you click on the "submit" icon and that's all there is to it.

Then something a little strange (but strange is not exactly something new in Thailand) happened. A few days before the appointment date reminders started coming in asking that you go back to the app on the appointed date and confirm the appointment. There will be an icon to click to make the confirmation. Only one minor problem. It doesn't work. I must have tried 20 times before I finally gave up. Instead of confirming, a message kept popping up saying you can't confirm.

Oh well, I went to immigration at the appointed time anyway. You know that crowded long line outside filled with people waiting their turn to go in? You know how many people were in that line today? None. Zero.

I just walked right up to the door. An attendant came out. I was going to show her that I had made an appointment, but the app wouldn't let me confirm. She knew that already. She said that part of the app isn't working, but no problem. They have my appointment on record from the app and were expecting me. She sent me in and they already had my appointment form filled out from their end and knew I was there for the retirement visa. They handed me the form and sent me right to the retirement visa desk.

Immigration was as empty as I have ever seen it. There weren't more than 20 people inside doing whatever they had gone to immigration to do. There were no foreigners at all at the retirement visa desk and they took me immediately. I was in and out in less than 5 minutes. It took me much longer at the bank getting the "letter for immigration" than anything else.

I learned something. from now on any time I have to go to immigration, I'll be using the QueQ app.

Totally quick and painless this year. And there have been times in the past when it took over an hour and a half just waiting for my turn.

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Re: Another Year - Retirement Extension Approved

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Gaybutton wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 3:48 pm
I made an appointment with immigration using the QueQ app.
1 Is the QueQ app for ALL immigration appointments, including tourist extensions ?

2 If you are not lucky enough to get an attendant coming out, how do you know your turn is up ? Does it provide a queue number on the board ?

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Jun wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 6:45 pm
1 Is the QueQ app for ALL immigration appointments, including tourist extensions ?
ANSWER: Among the appointment types there are two possible choices. One choice is "Tourist Visa". Another choice is "Other". If it were me, I'd choose "Other" since you're not applying for a new visa. You're only trying to extend the one you already have.

2 If you are not lucky enough to get an attendant coming out, how do you know your turn is up ? Does it provide a queue number on the board ?
ANSWER: There is always an attendant at the entrance door. The only reason the attendant was standing inside the door, rather than outside when I arrived and was the only person trying to enter, was most likely because today was so hot it felt like a million degrees outside and the inside is air conditioned.


Johnny Carson: "It was so hot today . . ."
Entire audience calling out: "How hot was it?"
Johnny Carson: "It was so hot today the trees thanked the dogs."

(Don't ask me why I remember that.)

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