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Undaunted wrote:
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RichLB wrote:
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Pattaya will continue to be a world class destination.
I must have missed when it was!
Pattaya is still world class in certain respects. Just not world class in any of the matters that national tourist bodies would promote.

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I still stand by my assertion that Pattaya is a world class destination. Where else can you find so many attractions identified in my previous post? True, there are some pimples here like flooding during rare downpours, road hazards in some areas, and other things to complain about, but when all things are weighed together, Pattaya is a wonderful place to visit and live.

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Based on all this nonsense regarding travel to Pattaya, I doubt the powers-that-be have to worry. Who do they think is going to travel to Pattaya under these rules and circumstances? People look for a holiday they can enjoy. What I see on offer for a holiday in Pattaya, let alone what people will have to go through trying to return home - why would anybody want to do this?
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Pattaya Sandbox sealed transport routes may bite the dust

By Barry Kenyon

September 14, 2021

The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) has indicated that some of the least popular aspects of the Move On Pattaya program are to be reviewed. Under the initial Sandbox proposals, international visitors to Pattaya would be restricted to sealed routes during their first seven days of vacation. Nobody has clarified in detail what these sealed routes would mean, but they most likely refer to no-stop group tour buses being the compulsory transport for the first week.

The sealed routes were not part of the Phuket Sandbox because Phuket is an island which it is difficult to exit without formal permission. Pattaya, on the other hand, is full of motorway, highway and minor exits which are not monitored by officials, except perhaps during curfew hours. Thus naughty-minded visitors may be tempted to join the Pattaya Sandbox scheme with the sole intention of deserting it at the earliest opportunity to roam free.

But now TAT Governor Yuthasak Supasorn has suggested that all Sandboxes throughout Thailand should have the same regulations and avoid sealed vehicles. He is looking for a simple system whereby tourists activate the Mor Chana tracking app and are checked once daily by their base, SHA-Plus approved hotel to make sure they are still sleeping there. Governor Yuthasak also indicated that the cost of three RT-PCR tests necessary for new arrivals should be reduced in price from 8,000 baht, or alternatives such as antigen test kits should be allowed for tests two and three.

Thanet Supornsahasrungsri, acting president of the Chonburi Tourism Council, welcomed the move away from sealed routes which he had said would be highly unpopular. He hoped that Pattaya Sandboxers would be able to move more freely within the Chonburi provincial region once the first RT-PCR test had been done. The Thai Cabinet is expected on Friday this week to give the go-ahead to the Pattaya Sandbox and maybe some others. However, changes and updates could well continue into October.

It remains unclear where the international Sandboxer tourists will come from. Jeffrey Watkins, who represents a British travel consortium, said Thailand was far from full open and seemed geared to welcoming tour groups rather than individuals. “Coronavirus remains a big issue in Thailand and we are waiting to see if the British and American authorities remove the country from their ‘do not enter’ category.”

But European travel agents welcomed the prospect of sealed transport being abolished. One said, “Most Europeans link sealed transport to Lenin’s train trip to Russia in 1917 when he was forbidden to leave the carriage in case somebody shot him. It’s an unfortunate image for leisure tourists.”

https://www.pattayamail.com/latestnews/ ... ust-371823

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I have said it before and I will say it again...for the last time!

Unless they fully open bars and entertainment nobody in their right minds will visit Thailand.

It is of note that they talk, discus, amend, alter, change the rules which tourists must obey. They introduce possibilities to visit certain attractions, sights, etc but no mention whatever about bars and entertainment being open for our visit.

Who is going to book a trip to Thailand for New Years Eve with everything closed??

Wake up Thailand. Open or stay shut. It’s so simple.

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gerefan wrote:
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Wake up Thailand. Open or stay shut. It’s so simple.
Hear hear gerefan
I'd like to see the data that suggests that alcohol (or why not ban it altogether?), restaurants , bars etc are a particular danger.

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I'd like to see the data that suggests that alcohol (or why not ban it altogether?), restaurants , bars etc are a particular danger.
You won't see any such data. You know why? Because there isn't any. Also I have seen no evidence of any kind to suggest serving alcohol in restaurants or bars is dangerous. Usually, when I read about it, the reasoning behind it is to discourage people from gathering closely together. Nonsense of course, but that's their reasoning - or at least what they say their reasoning is.

Meanwhile, it seems to me restaurants are one of the safest kinds of venues to go to. Show me even one restaurant that had anything to do with spreading Covid, much less anything that justified shutting down all of them. And now that restaurants are allowed to be open, I have seen nothing to suggest that any Covid cases are traced to or even suspected of having to do with any restaurants, even the mom-and-pop street food places.

In my opinion it is just another example of something someone just made up rather than anything based on any evidence whatsoever. If anything, since the restaurants have been allowed to reopen, has anyone noticed there are actually fewer Covid cases? Maybe that has nothing to do with it, but there certainly hasn't been an upsurge in cases since the restaurants reopened.

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UK continues to suppress visits to Thailand

By Barry Kenyon

September 18, 2021

In a shock decision, the UK authorities have refused to remove Thailand from its list of banned countries. Although the British Department of Transport has ended the bizarre traffic lights system, it has retained a list of 60-plus countries which Brits should avoid for Covid reasons. If they do insist on coming, then they must enter a 10/11 days of compulsory quarantine in an approved hotel on re-entry to UK at a cost of 2,285 pounds for an individual. Additionally, they must take a battery of pre-departure and post-arrival Covid tests.

Although several countries have been removed from the former UK red list – including Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan – Thailand is not the only Southeast Asian country to be out of bounds for Brits. Indonesia, Myanmar and the Philippines are also listed as no-go areas, but Singapore, Cambodia and Vietnam are regarded as sufficiently safe for travel, including holidays. Grant Shapps, the UK transport secretary, said the new system of grading got rid of amber-listed countries. “All countries are now either green or red,” he said.

The bad news for Thai travel comes as a shock as Thailand’s number of recorded infections has been on a downward trajectory whilst vaccinated numbers have been rising. However, the British authorities are not satisfied that the Bangkok authorities have the virus under control and remain doubtful that enough testing is occurring on a daily basis. One consequence of the continuing ban is that Thai citizens with valid visas will not be able to land in the UK as only British passport holders and permanent residents are permitted to enter before being ushered into a quarantine hotel.

The overall consequence for Brits determined to travel to Thailand, in spite of all, is a period of 14 days compulsory quarantine in a Thai hotel on arrival, unless they are part of the Sandbox program which restricts their movement for two weeks but is not a formal quarantine. At present, Sandbox operates only in Phuket and a few other southern islands. Returning to UK, Brits must then undergo another dose of expensive hotel quarantine plus ongoing health tests.

The British government can change the status of countries at any time. But a re-examination of Thailand’s prospects is not expected until mid-October at the earliest. The Tourist Authority of Thailand says it is very disappointed by the continuing British ban, but believes that Asian visitors will the first to enjoy Thai vacations as the country opens up again.

https://www.pattayamail.com/latestnews/ ... and-372364

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