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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by Gaybutton » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:41 am

Undaunted wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:52 pm
Doctor who raised the warning flag contracted the virus dies
That is truly sad news. When he first reported it he was harassed and threatened for "rumor mongering". I doubt China will ever admit who was responsible for doing that.

I also don't understand why WHO is still trying to say this is not some sort of pandemic. With numbers of cases rising worldwide and numbers of deaths rising, if this does not constitute a pandemic, what does?
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Whistleblower doctor dies, virus death toll rises to at least 630

7 Feb 2020

A Chinese doctor, among the first to raise the alert about China's new coronavirus, himself died from the pathogen on Friday, emphasising the depth of a worsening crisis that has killed at least 630 people.

Global panic also spread, with thousands trapped on quarantined cruise ships.

Ophthalmologist Li Wenliang died at 2.58am (1.58am Thai time), Wuhan Central Hospital said in a post on its verified account on Chinese social media platform Weibo.

The 34-year-old sent out a message about the new coronavirus to colleagues on Dec 30, but was later among eight whistleblowers summoned by police for "rumour-mongering."

He later contracted the disease while treating a patient and has been hailed as a hero by Chinese internet users.

Li was among more than 28,000 people who have been infected in China, where authorities are struggling to contain the outbreak, despite ordering millions indoors in a growing number of cities.

The number of confirmed deaths in China from the new-coronavirus outbreak rose on Friday to at least 630 after hard-hit Hubei province reported 69 new fatalities.

In its daily update, Hubei's health commission also confirmed another 2,447 new cases in the province, where the epidemic originated.

Thousands of holidaymakers on cruise ships in Hong Kong and Japan face an agonising wait to find out if more among them have been infected.

At least 20 people on the Diamond Princess -- off Yokohama since Monday -- have tested positive. Some 3,700 passengers and crew from more than 50 countries have been confined to quarters.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said another cruise ship, the Westerdam, was heading to the country with one confirmed case.

He said no foreigners from the vessel, capable of carrying nearly 3,000 passengers and crew, would be allowed to disembark.

In Hong Kong, 3,600 people spent a second night confined aboard the World Dream. Authorities conducted health checks after eight former passengers tested positive for the virus.

Hong Kong has been particularly nervous because the crisis revived memories of another coronavirus that causes Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS). It killed nearly 300 people in the city and another 349 on the Chinese mainland in 2002-2003.

Panic buying in semi-autonomous Hong Kong left supermarkets empty of toilet paper following false online claims of shortages, prompting authorities to appeal for calm.

One person has died after contracting the virus in Hong Kong.

While the death toll rises in China with the death of Li and others, experts have stressed that at two percent mortality, 2019-nCoV is far less deadly than SARS, which killed around 10 percent of the people it infected 17 years ago.

The outbreak has nevertheless been declared a global health emergency, prompting several governments to warn against travel to China and ban arrivals from the country, while airlines have halted flights and brought home their citizens.

Almost 200 Canadians showed up at the airport in Wuhan for the country's first evacuations, most on a commercial airliner chartered by Ottawa, officials said.

Germany's foreign ministry said it was working to bring home several nationals who had not made it out on a flight that reached Frankfurt last Saturday.

Saudi Arabia banned citizens and resident foreigners from travelling to China, while Air France-KLM extended its flight suspension by another month until March 15.

Chinese President Xi Jinping told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in a call that all countries should "follow World Health Organization guidelines on travel and health in a timely manner", state news agency Xinhua reported.

After Britain advised nationals to leave China, Beijing's ambassador to London said there should not be "such a panic."

Short of medical staff

China has enacted unprecedented measures to contain the virus, which spread during the Lunar New Year holiday in late January, when millions criss-crossed the country.

But deaths and new infections continue to rise, especially at the epicentre in Hubei province, where 18 cities housing 56 million people have been under virtual lockdown since late last month.

There is a shortage of 2,250 medical personnel in Hubei, deputy provincial governor Yang Yunyan said Thursday. The inability to offer health workers adequate protective gear is hindering the numbers that can be deployed on the front lines, he added.

With Hubei's capital Wuhan overwhelmed, authorities were due to open a second, 1,600-bed field hospital.

The central government has announced measures intended to ensure the supply of vital resources, with tax breaks for manufacturers of medical equipment.

BGI Group, a genome sequencing company in southern China, said it had opened a lab in Wuhan able to test 10,000 people a day.

'Don't go out'

More cities are ordering people to stay indoors.

They include Hangzhou, 175 kilometres from Shanghai, where fences block streets and loudspeakers tell people: "Don't go out!"

In Beijing -- where streets remain eerily quiet -- restaurants have been barred from accepting reservations for parties.

And in Nanchang, the capital of Jiangxi province which borders Hubei, pharmacists must send reports to the authorities on anyone buying fever or cough medicine.

The outbreak has also hit major businesses.

Workers making iPhones at tech giant Foxconn's plant in Henan province, bordering Hubei, will be quarantined for up to two weeks, the company said.

China said it would halve tariffs on US$75 billion worth of US imports, as part of a trade truce with Washington and as officials look to calm markets unnerved by the outbreak.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/18525 ... -least-630

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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by Undaunted » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:09 pm

Thai health minister apologies for racist Westerners (falang) remarks:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... t-outburst
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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by Dodger » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:49 am

Undaunted wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:09 pm
Thai health minister apologies for racist Westerners (falang) remarks:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... t-outburst
Why doesn't the Health Minister stop the Chinese from entering Thailand, versus, expecting non-Chinese visitors who are here on vacation to walk around wearing face masks. Who in the hell would go somewhere on vacation if they had to wear a face mask? Is this guy for real?

With the exception of tour groups, the Chinese are free and clear to travel to Thailand any time they want. There are countries thousands of miles away from the virus epicenter who have banned the Chinese, but Thailand, which is just a stone's throw away, still leaves the door wide open. It appears as if the Health Minister is preparing to cover his ass when the virus escalates in Thailand, by blaming the "farang", as always.

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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by Jun » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:01 pm

Dodger wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:49 am
It appears as if the Health Minister is preparing to cover his ass when the virus escalates in Thailand, by blaming the "farang", as always.
He may try, but any rational observer should realize that the virus originated in China. Possibly as a result of disgusting conditions in animal markets.

I remain amazed at the slow growth rate in declared cases in Thailand, compared with other countries. Approximately a week or 10 days ago, Thailand was #2 on the list behind China.
Thai numbers went up on just one day since, whilst other Asian countries have a steady increase.
Why is Thailand doing better than places like Japan and Singapore ? Would it be better hygiene and better social cohesion and discipline in complying with recommended precautions ? Ie The exact opposite of what I might expect.
Are there issues with detection and reporting ?
Or some other reason ?

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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by Finnseventy » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:53 pm

I am likewise concerned at the lack of reported cases in Thailand. Are people with symptoms being tested for the virus?
If the government is adopting the three monkeys approach, and the virus spreads undetected, then the presence of the virus will come out as tourists returning home test positive in their own countries. This will be very damaging for the tourist industry in Thailand.
I have been waiting to book a holiday in April. I have watched the price of flights falling but I have not booked.
I now think I won't go. I don't want to get sick and I don't believe Thailand is safe any more.

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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by RichLB » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:27 pm

Finnseventy wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:53 pm
I now think I won't go. I don't want to get sick and I don't believe Thailand is safe any more.
Everyone must do their own risk assessment, but look at your odds of getting sick from the virus. Thailand has a population of 69,000,000 people. As of today there have been 32 cases detected in Thailand, 23 Chinese and 9 Thais (all of whom have ties to Chinese). Of these 32 cases, 10 have been released from hospital (cured?). There have been no deaths from the virus in the Kingdom. Assuming all the remaining 22 cases remain ill(hardly realistic) , that brings your chances of illness to 22 out of 69,000,000. I'm betting your odds of being hit on the head by a falling coconut are higher.
I don't want to minimize what is clearly a major world crisis, but I wouldn't let it change how I wish to live my life - although I don't think I'll be touring Wuhan any time soon.

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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by Dodger » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:40 pm

RichLB wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:27 pm
Finnseventy wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:53 pm
I now think I won't go. I don't want to get sick and I don't believe Thailand is safe any more.
Everyone must do their own risk assessment, but look at your odds of getting sick from the virus. Thailand has a population of 69,000,000 people. As of today there have been 32 cases detected in Thailand, 23 Chinese and 9 Thais (all of whom have ties to Chinese). Of these 32 cases, 10 have been released from hospital (cured?). There have been no deaths from the virus in the Kingdom. Assuming all the remaining 22 cases remain ill(hardly realistic) , that brings your chances of illness to 22 out of 69,000,000. I'm betting your odds of being hit on the head by a falling coconut are higher.
I don't want to minimize what is clearly a major world crisis, but I wouldn't let it change how I wish to live my life - although I don't think I'll be touring Wuhan any time soon.
Rich...I agree with everything you said.

I just always find myself doubting any numbers (or statistics) that Thailand puts out. Reported cases of coronavirus in Thailand does nothing but cost them money, and whenever money comes into play, my trust goes right out the window.

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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by Undaunted » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:55 pm

Yes! I think everyone should stop coming.......how sweet it would be for us that live here!......I still remain amazed at the difference it makes driving around Pattaya without the pig carriers.
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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by Jun » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:43 pm

The reporting on Thai cases is certainly not complete.

When the latest batch of 7 cases was announced, the Bangkok Post reports that one of them was evacuated from Wuhan, was initially quarantined and is in hospital somewhere in Chonburi.
That gives the impression of everything being under control.

However, we are left guessing about the other 6. No information about the location or anything. I think it was similar in the previous batch. I presume the Bangkok Post publishes everything available to it.

Even communist China appears to be supplying information about the location of the cases.

So I am suspicious about 3 points:
1 Low growth rate in case numbers, compared with other Asian countries

2 Saving case numbers up and declaring them in batches, or so it appears. Possibly so at least one of the cases has some narrative demonstrating everything is under control.

3 No information about the location of cases. This is hardly being open. Also, it makes it more difficult to detect inaccurate reporting of figures.

I hope my suspicions are unfounded.

Very few Chinese around now. Unfortunately we still have the obnoxious Arabs.

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Re: chinese deadly coronavirus

Post by gerefan » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:55 pm

Actually I was beginning to think the number of Arabs had reduced. There are certainly many ex Arab shops which now seem to be vacant. And the number of motor bikes circling Yensabai and Sunee seems to be less.

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