Requiem For Sunee

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Re: Requiem For Sunee

Post by Gaybutton » Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:39 pm

Undaunted wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:19 pm
what makes you think this one will be better :?:
I didn't say I think it will be better. If I had to gamble on it, I would think it will be the same or worse, but I also think it is pointless to make predictions when none of us know what the next few months will bring. My position is wait and see.

If you want to declare Sunee Plaza dead, go ahead. If I join you in that, it will be after high season, not before.

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Re: Requiem For Sunee

Post by Jun » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:08 pm

Dodger wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:38 am
As much as it pains me to say this, gogo bars (gay & str8) are just becoming outdated.
Gogo bars provide a slightly more erotic style of entertainment and I don't see that as being outdated at all. If all else were equal, I would prefer to be in a gogo bar to a host bar.
Gogos offer the pleasure of seeing the guys in underwear on stage & if selecting on appearance, the less they wear in the bar, the better.

For me, the one issue with the Sunee gogo bars is the lack of quality & quantity. We're down to 3 bars. Winner boys is good, Power Boys doesn't have many boys & on some visits, none of them interest me. Finally Nice Boys appeals to some, but definitely not me.

I also think that farang want good value gogo bars. However, if we go down to Boyztown, bars like Toy Boys & Cupidol were more busy than the Sunee bars last winter and charging more for the drinks. Perhaps Toy Boys has a few Asian customers, but Cupidol had mainly western customers.

I haven't ventured down to Jomtien as much, but when I do go, it's for the boys and NOT the format.
The way the format works can vary considerably.
In the case of Sun Bar, all the boys were sitting at their tables, drinking amongst themselves. Groups of farang were sitting on separate tables. At one point I did a count and excluding one much older Thai, obviously not bar staff, I think they only had one lad sat with a customer. There was no circulation. Probably good for drinking and socializing, but not for finding a lad. (At one point, Oud turned up with a couple of farang).
Directly across the soi @Home bar had staff circulating and even sitting with customers. Completely different.
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Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:38 am
Fortunately, cruising bars are still popular, and, from what I've seen, Jomtien Complex has a lot to offer.
:o
I'm not entirely sure that "cruising bars" is the most appropriate name for what Jomtien offers. Here's a link describing some of the Berlin cruising bars, which is more in line with my understanding of a "cruising bar". Incidentally, I haven't been to any of them, but have visited the rent boy bars.https://www.travelgay.com/berlin-gay-cruise-clubs/

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Re: Requiem For Sunee

Post by windwalker » Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:01 pm

I agree with you Jun about Jomtien bar scene. The lads there get you to come in and then go back to playing with their phones. There are some places where the lads do make a pass for the customers, which is always nice.

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Re: Requiem For Sunee

Post by Gaybutton » Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:15 pm

windwalker wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:01 pm
The lads there get you to come in and then go back to playing with their phones.
That has also been my experience in some of the Jomtien Complex bars, but if you call a boy over to sit with you, they are definitely eager to do so. Call a boy over and the telephone playing stops.

If they are freelancing, then I can kinda-sorta see it. But if they are paid to work in the bars, I'm surprised the management puts up with it. I remember at some go-go bars the boys were doing exactly the same thing, but if a customer walked in, now the phones were quickly put away and they were on the stage.

Host bars should, in my opinion, have a similar policy. If there are no customers in the bar, play with the phones all you want. But if customers come to the bar, put the phones away.

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Re: Requiem For Sunee

Post by Jun » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:22 pm

windwalker wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:01 pm
The lads there get you to come in and then go back to playing with their phones.
This is frequently an issue with host bars, including some in Sunee, although NOT all host bars. @Home in Jomtien had lads circulating when I was there. That is just how host bars should work.

Where the format isn't working, I've noticed 3 different issues:
i) Lads drinking amongst themselves, with no interest in looking for customers.
(ii) All the lads drinking with one farang
(iii) Lads on their phone

If all the lads drink amongst themselves, they are not earning money and if they do that on a regular basis, they will end up overweight and out of shape. Drinking at a table might be more fun, but walking around a stage in underwear is healthier (more exercise, less calories).

The lads all drinking with one farang might have a good time, but they are typically getting a 100 baht tip for often over an hour of their time and aren't going after any bigger tips during that time. Perhaps some of these farang who entertain 5~6 boys tip well, but I've often seen 100 baht notes handed out. Which is of course OK for a short period of time.

Anyway, of course I could interrupt lads in any one of these scenarios, but I'm used to the gogo bar format where eye contact can be made, or some other indication that he's slightly interested in getting an off.
Guess I just need to get used to peeling lads off from the pack and if it turns out they don't want to be away from their phone/friends, just write off the price of a drink and try another one.

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Re: Requiem For Sunee

Post by SP55 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:48 am

Sunee was actually unusually busy Wednesday evening.

Jomtien complex is not for me. All the disadvantages that have been mentioned here I agree with, and have plenty more to add about things I don't like about Jomtien complex.

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