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Until now, almost no information at all has been published about who any of these boys are individually. But this boy is quite outstanding.
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English-speaking footballer is academic polymath, says teacher

July 5, 2018

The video clip of the first encounter between British divers and the 13 missing members of a local football team trapped in Tham Luang cave for days thrilled the nation as they were found safe and alive.

As the conversation between the divers and the boys continued, the clip’s watchers may have been surprised when a boy was able to communicate in English and became the translator for his friends.

The boy became the talk of the town as many people wondered who he is. People praised him for being fluent in English considering his age and in comparison to his friends who had to ask him to translate for them.

The clip was shared more than four million times across the globe as the boys’ disappearance in the cave and the multinational rescue operations became the headline news for days and continues to do so.

Japanese seeing the clip expressed surprise that such a young boy knew sufficient English to communicate and they compared him to Japanese boys of the same age.

One person not surprised was his teacher, Piyarat Yodsuwan of Mor 2/3, Ban Wiengpan School. Adul Samorn, 14, can speak four languages, said the teacher: Thai, English, Chinese and Burmese.

As a student of the school’s so-called “Buffer School”, Adul learnt foreign languages from native speakers. He is under the care of Hope Mae Sai Church as his Akha hilltribe family, who live in Myanmar, is very poor.

The school has promoted the study of foreign languages because about 80 per cent of the students who graduate from Mor 3 are planning to run a business at the border. Therefore, it is necessary for them to understand foreign languages.

The studies focus on enabling the students to communicate rather than on the grammar, the teacher said.

Piyarat said that Adul is a hardworking student with a grade average of 3.9 out of 4.

He also joins in many activities after classes, such as football, volleyball and biking, and shows musical talents and can play guitar, violin and piano.

He was also a winner in the science competition at the provincial level and has a good sense of responsibility, as he always submits his homework when he is absent, said his teacher.

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1 Waiting for the water to be pumped out is fine if they are sure the -1cm per hour rate can be maintained. However, if there is a heavy downpour & it changes to +10cm per hour, then this is a mistake. I hope they have some good experts on this.
I also have to say, the water flow rate from those pipes in the pictures does not look particularly high. Surely they can find some more or higher flow rate pumps ? It may be necessary to turn the flow down if divers are in the tunnel at the time, but I expect this could be coordinated.

2 As for the guy speaking English at a young age, well of course at a young age is the best time to learn foreign languages. Ideally people would be taught several languages at the same time they are picking up their native language (same goes for kids in English speaking countries).
In the real world, of course this lad has made much more of the language learning opportunities than his colleagues, so is to be praised.
Also, he's probably made an important contribution to reassuring his colleagues after the initial discovery, since if a couple of foreign guys show up & then leave, it's better if everyone understands there will be more people coming back. Rather than guessing.
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Survivors get diving lessons

July 06, 2018

By THE NATION

As water levels recede, rescuers inclined to evacuate stranded 13 before rains aggravate floods.

Rescue teams plan to take a risk, if manageable, in escorting 13 survivors out of the flooded Tham Luang cave as they believe staying inside longer may prove even riskier in the rainy season.

Although four rescue options have been discussed, it is now quite clear that decision-makers will go with the option of evacuating the 12 boys and their football coach through a 5km stretch that will require both diving and trekking. For each of them, this journey could take many hours. Even with all their training, it takes the Royal Thai Navy SEALs about five hours to move from Noen Nom Sao to the third chamber of the cave.

Noen Nom Sao is where the 13 members of the Mu Pa Academy Mae Sai, a local football team, have been stranded since June 23. The third chamber, which now serves as the forward command for rescue operations, is about a few kilometres from the mouth of the cave.

The diving-and-trekking evacuation is considered dangerous, given that the 13 trapped victims have had no swimming or diving experience, but this method is considered the quickest way to evacuate them.

“Our major concern is the weather because, despite our best efforts to drain the water, we cannot beat the rising floodwater level if there’s heavy rain,” Narongsak Osotanakorn said yesterday in his capacity as the chief of the rescue operations.

Flash floods hit the Tham Luang cave in Chiang Rai province on June 23, leaving the 12 footballers aged 11 to 16 and their coach stranded inside.

Narongsak has since headed the rescue operations, which involve more than 1,000 officials and volunteers.

Experts from many countries have also helped in the life-saving mission, which has become big news across the world.

“The SEALs are able to go back and forth and the stranded children are at a safe location, but a higher water level would make the rescue operation even harder,” he explained.

In the absence of heavy rain, powerful pumps have significantly lowered the floodwater level inside the cave this week.

For the first time since rescue operations started, it was possible yesterday for rescue teams to walk into the third chamber of the cave without the need to dive at all. The first two-km stretch of the cave, from its mouth, is now flooded with no more than knee-deep water.

The third chamber functions as the forward command for the rescue efforts. It stores oxygen tanks, goods, necessary supplies and communication devices.

The lower the water level, the greater the prospects of evacuating the trapped boys and their coach through the main entrance of the cave.

As rescue planners work hard on draining out the floodwater, the SEALs are familiarising the 13 survivors with diving gear and skills that will help them during their evacuation.

“We have not yet decided when they will be evacuated,” Narongsak said. “We need to consider several factors including weather conditions.”

He said it would be best for them to move out when floodwater levels hit the lowest possible.

“But we also need to consider their physical condition. Medics will decide on that. Physical rehabilitation is now going on at Noen Nom Sao,” he said.

According to him, 13 sets of diving gears and escort teams have already been prepared.

“If physical examination shows the survivors may not be 100 per cent ready but all risks involved are within manageable levels, we will go ahead with the evacuation immediately,” Narongsak said. “Doctors and SEALs will make the evaluation.”

Diving experts have said that it will be really hard for the trapped boys and their coach to make the journey by diving through cold and muddy waters.

Rescue planners, however, have assured that there will be two SEALs escorting each of the survivors.

Rod lines and oxygen tanks have already been installed at the diving sections too.

Narongsak said at the same time, many rescue teams continued to explore areas above the Tham Luang in the hope of finding a better way to evacuate the 13 survivors.

Three other possible options to evacuate the 13 survivors are: to drill into the cave and get them out; to find a natural shaft that can connect to the cave naturally or with a drilling solution; and to have the 13 survivors stay inside the cave with necessary supplies until the rainy season ends.

All three options carry some risks. Therefore, rescue planners have decided to try to teach the 13 survivors how to swim and dive so that they can brave their way out.

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Many worry that coach may blame himself for ordeal

By Marisa Chimprabha
THE NATION

July 06, 2018

The assistant coach of Mu Pa Academy, Ekkapon Chantawongse, 25, is the eldest of the 13 footballers who have been trapped in the Tham Luang cave in Chiang Rai since June 23.

The team members were found safe after spending 10 days in the heavily flooded cave after marathon rescue efforts. Authorities are still considering the best and safest way to rescue them.

Some netizens blamed “Coach Ek”, saying he has to take responsibility for the incident as he was the eldest of the group who should have prevented the group from entering the cave. He took the boys inside the cave despite there being a warning sign in front of the entrance.

However, some netizens argued that it was the sudden flash floods that had led to the group getting trapped, forcing them to retreat deeper into the cave.

The warning sign in front of the cave cautioned visitors against entering the cave during the rainy season from July to November. The team went in on June 23. It was not their first visit.

Despite differences of opinion, most people now see the coach as the main reason why the boys survived the ordeal.

It has been revealed that he advised the boys to use flashlights one at a time to make sure they had a light source for as long as possible.

He taught them to drink clean water that seeped through the roof of the cave, not the floodwater, after they had run out of drinking water. He also told the boys not to move a lot, and asked them to meditate to save as much energy as possible.

These were experiences he had reportedly gained during his monkhood when he stayed in caves.

There is concern that Ekkapon may experience severe guilt pangs and will blame himself for the ordeal and see himself as the cause of the multinational rescue operation.

During the video clip of the first sighting of the missing boys, Ekkapon apparently hid himself in the back, as he was not seen. The second video clip of the group that shot each member one by one showed him looking considerably weaker when compared with his previous photos.

That has raised concerns that the coach might be suffering from feelings of guilt.

However, the boys’ parents, who are waiting to see their children come out of the cave, told media that they did not blame the coach for the incident.

A mother said, “Coach Ek, you should not blame yourself for what happened. We all know that you are kind and always have the good heart to help our children.”

Another mother said in tears that her boy had survived this ordeal because of the coach. “I was worried that my boy was missing. What comforted me was that coach Ek is with him.”

Thawatchai Thaikhiew, the deputy permanent secretary for Justice, said he was worried that the coach may consider it his fault and may not forgive himself. This could lead to depression.

“I ask all Thai people to send him moral support for our hero coach Ek. If anyone meets him, please tell him that he is the one whom I would love and hug the most,” he said in his Facebook post.

From a video clip shot during the first encounter between British divers and the missing group, people could see the boys’ surprisingly good spirits although they appeared to be exhausted.

Chiang Rai Governor Narongsak Osotanakorn earlier said that the boys were stronger than expected.

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Gaybutton wrote:Many worry that coach may blame himself for ordeal . . . Some netizens blamed “Coach Ek”, saying he has to take responsibility for the incident as he was the eldest of the group who should have prevented the group from entering the cave. He took the boys inside the cave despite there being a warning sign in front of the entrance
I fear also that one reason for the coach now suffering medical problems is self-blame. I'd be pretty certain he also needs some urgent psychological counselling. Yet he is also a hero. When the flash floods arrived it was he who led the boys to safety within the complex, who gave them much of his food ration, who insisted they meditate and reduce their movements - all to conserve their energy. Those kids must have had a lot of fear, especially the younger ones. Yet being the one in charge, I am sure the coach knew it was his duty to maintain their spirits even though he himself must have known the chances of rescue could possibly be close to zero. And as we saw on that first video when the British diver surfaced, they all seemed remarkably calm.

As for that sign: as I stated some days ago, it very clearly says July - September. It does not say June - September. If there is blame, then it is surely the authorities who decided that June is not part of flooding season.

But no-one should be talking about blame at this stage. Unexpected emergencies happen all over the world. Everyone should leave the authorities to do their job and get those boys out as quickly and safely as possible. There are loads of experts up at the cave and the Chiang Rai governor seems to be doing an excellent leadership job. I wish them all the luck and wisdom in the world.
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Former Thai Navy Seal Dies after running out of Oxygen

Tragic news just reported on CNN. This man was a trained diver who had left the Navy Seals but returned to help with the rescue effort. If anything illustrates the real problems getting those kids out, surely this sad event proves it.
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fountainhall wrote:Tragic news just reported on CNN.
Terribly sad news.

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This will become a movie...no doubt...just hope it has a happy ending.
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Billionaire Elon Musk has offered the services of one of his companies to the Thai government. The company, Boring Holes, could dig down from the surface.
He also mused about inserting a nylon tube into the cave and inflating it "like a bouncy castle" to create an underwater tunnel.

A spokesman for Mr Musk confirmed that his representatives are in talks with the Thai authorities.
He also tweeted, "walking speed is around 5km/h, but if you’re in an air tube, time doesn’t matter much. If tube diameter was 1.5m, a fast walk of 5km would take 40 mins or so. Just need to duck for the narrow sections.

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fountainhall wrote:Billionaire Elon Musk has offered the services of one of his companies to the Thai government. The company, Boring Holes, could dig down from the surface.
If such ideas are indeed do-able, I hope it all doesn't come too late. The major concern at the moment seems to be the possibility of rains not only refilling the cave, but filling it to the point that the boys have nowhere to go and would be in danger of drowning.

On a more positive note, FIFA has invited the boys to the World Cup on July 15. Let's hope they can get the boys out safely and soon enough so they don't literally have to take a rain check.

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Elon Musk sends engineers to help Thai cave rescue mission

By James Masters, CNN

July 6, 2018

(CNN) - Tech billionaire Elon Musk is sending specialist engineers to Thailand to help aid the rescue of the 12 boys and their football coach trapped in a cave.

Musk hopes his engineers can join the already huge operation being carried out he Tham Luang Nang Non cave complex, where dozens of Thai Navy SEALs and international experts are attempting to find a way to get the boys out.

Musk, founder of the Boring Company, as well as the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX tweeted Thursday: "SpaceX & Boring Co engineers headed to Thailand tomorrow to see if we can be helpful to govt. There are probably many complexities that are hard to appreciate without being there in person."

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