More Trouble for airbnb

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#1 More Trouble for airbnb

Postby Undaunted » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:01 am

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#2 Re: More Trouble for airbnb

Postby Asia Traveler » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:09 pm

San Francisco has already created new short term rental regulations which has significantly reduced the AirBnB units available.

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#3 Re: More Trouble for airbnb

Postby Up2u » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:31 pm

Asia Traveler wrote:San Francisco has already created new short term rental regulations which has significantly reduced the AirBnB units available.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/ar ... o-14877491

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#4 Re: More Trouble for airbnb

Postby firecat69 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:56 pm

Some of those cities the problems have been coming because of restrictions preposed for quite some time. For me some of the prices in NYC, SFO and a few others were not really that good and I use some of the points i have to stay in Hotels.

But Airbnb is everywhere and I predict they will be around for a long time at many of the places I want to visit. After all , they can pay off the politicians like Trump who unfortunately exist everywhere. They will find away to pay taxes to some of the bigger cities and smaller locations , they may bury them with lawsuits

In Pattaya I guarantee many of the Airbnb copy cats will move along renting in all the View Talay's just as they have for years .

I find it unlikely that Airbnb will disappear ! In fact I see no change in listings for Amsterdam, London, Brussels, Paris, Mexico City, Cape Town, Zurich ,Rio de Janeiro etc etc etc and just about any city in the world I have visited and used Airbnb. Oh and by the way hundreds available, Seattle, LosAngeles, SanDiego, Dallas, Boston and many other Major Cities in the USA.

So maybe a very few large USA cities and Japan and lots of publicity but probably a tiny fraction of the locations all over the world and they will find away to abide by the rules in those few places and survive.

We heard the same baloney from the Taxi's in NYC when Uber started taking all their business. Gee I 'm pretty sure Uber or similar is still the first choice for many in NYC.

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#5 Re: More Trouble for airbnb

Postby Up2u » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:32 pm

If I was renting my condo I would use airbnb or one of its look alikes but I would follow the laws. I would look for a renter and want a one year lease (preferably two). I suspect it may be just a matter of time before Thailand gets smart and registers hosts, like other countries/cities are doing, guaranteeing appropriate taxes are paid. Simplest solution is a simple software programming change, when a client enters dates at one of these sites for a booking, the term is restricted to more than 30 days, problem solved.

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#6 Re: More Trouble for airbnb

Postby firecat69 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:59 pm

I don't know for sure but I would bet that may 1/10 of 1% would be year long or more of the listings on Airbnb. Their business is built mainly around vacationers. Their website is set up to offer a lower price for 1 month and an occasional listing price break for 2 weeks. Year long rentals is not their business!

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#7 Re: More Trouble for airbnb

Postby Up2u » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:19 pm

firecat69 wrote:I don't know for sure but I would bet that may 1/10 of 1% would be year long or more of the listings on Airbnb. Their business is built mainly around vacationers. Their website is set up to offer a lower price for 1 month and an occasional listing price break for 2 weeks. Year long rentals is not their business!

True but when marketing I would cover all bases. There could always be that one person who's getting ready for retirement or a job transfer or ? One thing about Thailand is there is also no such thing as exclusivity agreements in sales or rentals.

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#8 Re: More Trouble for airbnb

Postby GWMinUS » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:18 am

I think you guys living in places like BKK or Pattaya cannot have it BOTH ways.
I understand if you prefer to not have have Tourists staying in your building short time.
But for us Tourists it is the Way To Go!! Leave us alone!!
Why pay USD85 or 2550TBH for a small room in a Hotel when you can enjoy having a Bedroom, Living Room, Kitchen, and a nice Bathroom??
But there is no way I plan to come stay 30 days in either BKK, Pattaya, or Chang Mai. I come to Thailand for adventure.
Not to join you Expats...
AirBnb has real advantages and should be allowed to service us who want a nice place to stay short-time...
Cheers

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#9 Re: More Trouble for airbnb

Postby Up2u » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:45 am

GWMinUS wrote:AirBnb has real advantages and should be allowed to service us who want a nice place to stay short-time...
Cheers

Nothing personal, I wouldn't do it to you, so please don't do it to us. These our are homes, not a hotel or a guesthouse. These changes, if they happen, will not happen overnight and supposedly have a 2019 compliance date.

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#10 Re: More Trouble for airbnb

Postby Gaybutton » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:13 pm

GWMinUS wrote:AirBnb has real advantages and should be allowed to service us who want a nice place to stay short-time...

When it is a single, quiet, well behaved person such as yourself, I doubt many would object. But I can certainly understand the problem when it's a family with unruly, unsupervised, noisy children whose idea of a fun way to spend the day is running screaming through the hallways, pushing every button on in the elevator, and peeing in the pool.

The problem for permanent residents is they have no way of knowing who or what kinds of people are going to show up via AirBnb or any other rental service. Up2u has a valid point. I wouldn't want the wrong kinds of people moving in next door for a week or two any more than I would want to be living next door to a loud karaoke blaring music all through the night.

I've never lived in a condo, so I don't know how it works, but can't condo committees, or whoever is in charge, forbid such short-time rentals or throw out unruly renters? If they can, and full time residents are complaining, then why aren't they doing it?


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