Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

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#21 Re: Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

Postby puan » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:36 am

Trump Is Woody Allen Without the Humor
Half his tweets show utter weakness. They are plaintive, shrill little cries, usually just after dawn.

By
Peggy Noonan, Columist,
(conservative, Republican, former speech write for President Reagan) in The Wall Street Journal, July 28, 2017
July 27, 2017 6:06 p.m. ET

The president’s primary problem as a leader is not that he is impetuous, brash or naive. It’s not that he is inexperienced, crude, an outsider. It is that he is weak and sniveling. It is that he undermines himself almost daily by ignoring traditional norms and forms of American masculinity.

He’s not strong and self-controlled, not cool and tough, not low-key and determined; he’s whiny, weepy and self-pitying. He throws himself, sobbing, on the body politic. He’s a drama queen. It was once said, sarcastically, of George H.W. Bush that he reminded everyone of her first husband. Trump must remind people of their first wife. Actually his wife, Melania, is tougher than he is with her stoicism and grace, her self-discipline and desire to show the world respect by presenting herself with dignity.

Half the president’s tweets show utter weakness. They are plaintive, shrill little cries, usually just after dawn. “It’s very sad that Republicans, even some that were carried over the line on my back, do very little to protect their president.” The brutes. Actually they’ve been laboring to be loyal to him since Inauguration Day. “The Republicans never discuss how good their health care bill is.” True, but neither does Mr. Trump, who seems unsure of its content. In just the past two weeks, of the press, he complained: “Every story/opinion, even if should be positive, is bad!” Journalists produce “highly slanted & even fraudulent reporting.” They are “DISTORTING DEMOCRACY.” They “fabricate the facts.”

It’s all whimpering accusation and finger-pointing: Nobody’s nice to me. Why don’t they appreciate me?

His public brutalizing of Attorney General Jeff Sessions isn’t strong, cool and deadly; it’s limp, lame and blubbery. “Sessions has taken a VERY weak position on Hillary Clinton crimes,” he tweeted this week. Talk about projection.

He told the Journal’s Michael C. Bender he is disappointed in Mr. Sessions and doesn’t feel any particular loyalty toward him. “He was a senator, he looks at 40,000 people and he probably says, ‘What do I have to lose?’ And he endorsed me. So it’s not like a great loyal thing about the endorsement.” Actually, Mr. Sessions supported him early and put his personal credibility on the line. In Politico, John J. Pitney Jr. of Claremont McKenna College writes: “Loyalty is about strength. It is about sticking with a person, a cause, an idea or a country even when it is costly, difficult or unpopular.” A strong man does that. A weak one would unleash his resentments and derive sadistic pleasure from their unleashing.

The way American men used to like seeing themselves, the template they most admired, was the strong silent type celebrated in classic mid-20th century films—Gary Cooper, John Wayne, Henry Fonda. In time the style shifted, and we wound up with the nervous and chattery. More than a decade ago the producer and writer David Chase had his Tony Soprano mourn the disappearance of the old style: “What they didn’t know is once they got Gary Cooper in touch with his feelings they wouldn’t be able to shut him up!” The new style was more like that of Woody Allen. His characters couldn’t stop talking about their emotions, their resentments and needs. They were self-justifying as they acted out their cowardice and anger.

But he was a comic. It was funny. He wasn’t putting it out as a new template for maleness. Donald Trump now is like an unfunny Woody Allen.

Who needs a template for how to be a man? A lot of boys and young men, who’ve grown up in a culture confused about what men are and do. Who teaches them the real dignity and meaning of being a man? Mostly good fathers and teachers. Luckily Mr. Trump this week addressed the Boy Scout Jamboree in West Virginia, where he represented to them masculinity and the moral life.

“Who the hell wants to speak about politics when I’m in front of the Boy Scouts, right?” But he overcame his natural reticence. We should change how we refer to Washington, he said: “We ought to change it from the word ‘swamp’ to perhaps ‘cesspool’ or perhaps to the word ‘sewer.’ ” Washington is not nice to him and is full of bad people. “As the Scout Law says, ‘A Scout is trustworthy, loyal—we could use some more loyalty, I will tell you that.” He then told them the apparently tragic story of a man who was once successful. “And in the end he failed, and he failed badly.”

Why should he inspire them, show personal height, weight and dignity, support our frail institutions? He has needs and wants—he is angry!—which supersede pesky, long-term objectives. Why put the amorphous hopes of the audience ahead of his own, more urgent needs?

His inability—not his refusal, but his inability—to embrace the public and rhetorical role of the presidency consistently and constructively is weak.

“It’s so easy to act presidential but that’s not gonna get it done,” Mr. Trump said the other night at a rally in Youngstown, Ohio. That is the opposite of the truth. The truth, six months in, is that he is not presidential and is not getting it done. His mad, blubbery petulance isn’t working for him but against him. If he were presidential he’d be getting it done—building momentum, gaining support. He’d be over 50%, not under 40%. He’d have health care, and more.

We close with the observation that it’s all nonstop drama and queen-for-a-day inside this hothouse of a White House. Staffers speak in their common yet somehow colorful language of their wants, their complaints. The new communications chief, Anthony Scaramucci, who in his debut came across as affable and in control of himself, went on CNN Thursday to show he’ll fit right in. He’s surrounded by “nefarious, backstabbing” leakers. “The fish stinks from the head down. But I can tell you two fish that don’t stink, and that’s me and the president.” He’s strong and well connected: “I’ve got buddies of mine in the FBI”; “ Sean Hannity is one of my closest friends.” He is constantly with the president, at dinner, on the phone, in the sauna snapping towels. I made that up. “The president and I would like to tell everybody we have a very, very good idea of who the leakers are.” Chief of Staff Reince Priebus better watch it. There are people in the White House who “think it is their job to save America from this president, okay?” So they leak. But we know who they are.

He seemed to think this diarrheic diatribe was professional, the kind of thing the big boys do with their media bros. But he came across as just another drama queen for this warring, riven, incontinent White House. As Scaramucci spoke, the historian Joshua Zeitz observed wonderingly, on Twitter: “It’s Team of Rivals but for morons.”

It is. And it stinks from the top.

Meanwhile the whole world is watching, a world that contains predators. How could they not be seeing this weakness, confusion and chaos and thinking it’s a good time to cause some trouble?

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/trump- ... 1501193193

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#22 Re: Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

Postby RichLB » Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:22 am

Just a reminder for any gay Trump supporter. I marvel at the cognitive dissonance any gay guy still in support of Trump must be experiencing. When he says he'll "make America great again" he's obviously not making it great for gay people. Here's the rundown:

January - Removed all content on LGBT rights from White House website.
February - Rescinded protection for transgender students on their use of rest rooms in public schools.
March - Revoked protection for LGBT workers against discrimination in hiring and employment.
April - Drops Federal lawsuit on North Carolina's statewide prohibition on LGBT equality.
June - Signals the US military will not "accept or allow" transgender people to serve.

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#23 Re: Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

Postby fountainhall » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:20 am

The world view is largely summed up by a scathing editorial in today's UK Observer, some of which I print below -

The sense of things falling apart in Washington is palpable – and a matter of growing, serious international concern. Donald Trump’s latest asinine act of gesture politics, the forced resignation of his chief of staff, Reince Priebus, has shone a spotlight on the extraordinary chaos inside the White House. Even normally sober, experienced Washington observers now refer to the West Wing as a viper’s nest of seething rivalry, bitter feuds, gross incompetence and an unparalleled leadership vacuum.

Like some kind of Shakespearean villain-clown, Trump plays not to the gallery but to the pit. He is a Falstaff without the humour or the self-awareness, a cowardly, bullying Richard III without a clue. Late-night US satirists find in this an unending source of high comedy. If they did not laugh, they would cry. The world is witnessing the dramatic unfolding of a tragedy whose main victims are a seemingly helpless American audience, America’s system of balanced governance and its global reputation as a leading democratic light.

As his partisan, demeaning and self-admiring speech to the Boy Scouts of America illustrated, Trump endlessly reruns last year’s presidential election campaign, rails against the “fake news” media and appeals to the lowest common denominator in public debate. Not a word about duty, service, shared purpose or high ideals was to be found in his gutter-level discourse before a youthful gathering of 30,000 in West Virginia. Instead, he served up a sad cocktail of paranoia and narcissism. It was all about him and what he has supposedly achieved against the odds . . .

The next prospective car crash, following the Obamacare pile-up, is a September deadline for a federal budget and linked tax reforms and increased military spending promised by Trump. A budget deal proved impossible last spring and may do so again. If there is no agreement, a government shut-down looms, an outcome in line with current Washington trends. Lazy, feckless Trump has no interest in the onerous business of lobbying Congress or working the phones. He wants quick, easy wins or else he walks away . . .

Recent months have produced a litany of Trump threats and boasts over North Korea. There was no way, he said, that Pyongyang would deploy an ICBM capable of hitting the mainland US. “It’s not going to happen,” he tweeted. Wrong again, Donald. It did. By conducting its own satellite launch last week, ignoring western concerns, Iran has similarly thumbed its nose at Washington. Iran’s leaders should understand there would be “very serious” consequences if they pursued their ballistic missile programme, Trump had warned. Additional hints from Rex Tillerson, US secretary of state, and Jim Mattis, Pentagon chief, about regime change in Iran further darkened the strategic horizon. But guess what? Tehran took no notice at all. It went ahead anyway.

Or take Russia. Having played Trump to its advantage, Moscow’s open hand is turning into a clenched fist as it threatens reprisals over a new Congressional sanctions package. It was not hard to see this tactical switch coming, once it was clear Trump could not deliver the sort of concessions on Ukraine Putin craves. Except, in his fecklessness and blind vanity and courting Putin to the end, Trump didn’t see it coming at all. You can almost see Putin’s lip curl.

The common factor in all these situations is Trump’s self-induced powerlessness and ignorance, his chronic lack of credibility and presidential authority and consequent perceptions of US and western weakness. And in the case of all three actual or potential adversaries – North Korea, Iran and Russia – these perceptions are highly dangerous. Precisely because US responses, actions and reactions can no longer be relied upon or predicted, by friends and enemies alike, the potential for calamitous miscalculation is growing. This uncertainty, like the chaos in the White House and the extraordinary disarray of the American body politic, stems from Trump’s glaring unfitness for the highest office. As is now becoming ever plainer, this threatens us all.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... for-office

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#24 Re: Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

Postby Pattayamale » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:08 pm

Thank you TJ. I appreciate your best wishes. Ake relayed your message to me also. Appreciate it

" have said many times I support Universal Healthcare for All Americans... Sadly it did not happen 7 years ago.
The American people were the losers and the politicians from both sides of the aisle were the ones bought off by the pharmaceutical, insurance, hospitals, doctors and lawyers lobbyists. Big. $$$$$$ Won out... "

I did not know this was your position. From what I read most Americans also support your idea of Universal Healthcare for ALL Americans (wish it would extend to expats too as we are still citizens.....).

My point of view is where I hear some people considering. That would be a one payer system under medicare. For me, when in the United States, medicare was wonderful. I contracted sepsis when I had my prostate biopsy. I was in ICU for about a week. My total cost was $149. While the bill was over $100,000. So medicare coverage combined with a separate health insurance policy covered it all.
What would someone who did not have that insurance do? I feel sorry for those who would not.

True I hear all the time that UNLESS the US government repays the trillions of dollars it took from Medicare (interest included) it may go broke in the next 30 years. So I imagine if we could eliminate the commercial health care corporations whose duty it is to produce profits for its stockholders, eliminate the Corporate officers that have millions in salaries and benefits, the sales force, the advertising, all the back office staff, ... and charge every citizen through a taxes ... We could have the best system in the world THAT COVERS EVERYONE.

Of course it would be a great, big, cumbersome task to do it. Problems everywhere in setting it up. Corporations and the politicians would howl! They would try to scare people into believing it could not work, there would be death panels, it would bankrupt the country, and lead to all sorts of fears.

But if 58 countries in the world can have some form of Universal Health Care, then a country as rich as the United States has the capacity even though it lacks the will to do so.

I never thought I would see gay marriage in the USA during my lifetime. Maybe I will finally see GOOD affordable Universal Healthcare in my life time, but they better hurry up or I am certain I may not!
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#25 Re: Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

Postby Gaybutton » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:57 pm

RichLB wrote:When he says he'll "make America great again" he's obviously not making it great for gay people.

With a friend like Trump, who needs . . . ?

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#26 Re: Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

Postby Up2u » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:23 pm

"... True I hear all the time that UNLESS the US government repays the trillions of dollars it took from Medicare (interest included) it may go broke in the next 30 years....." Let's not confuse Medicare with the Social Security Trust Fund. Medicare Part A has a surplus, Medicare Part B gets most revenue from the government's general fund.

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#27 Re: Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

Postby Captain Kirk » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:33 am

My goodness, Scaramucci GONE already. Whatever will happen tomorrow, can't wait to find out.

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#28 Re: Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

Postby fountainhall » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:42 am

The Boy Scouts of America will be disbanded because some Mums objected to the Dump's speech :o

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#29 Re: Consequences of Trump's Win - 4

Postby Gaybutton » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:43 am

fountainhall wrote:The Boy Scouts of America will be disbanded because some Mums objected to the Dump's speech

Maybe instead they will all join the Trumpler Youth . . .

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