First Clinton-Trump debate - Your opinions

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Undaunted wrote:At the end of the day Trump Vs. Clinton is like saying your going to have cancer now what kind do you want?
There are many types of cancer. At the end of the day I think having ~ for example ~ basal cell carcinoma (Clinton) would be a much happier ride than metastasizing lung cancer (Trump).
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Smiles, I think that sums it up perfectly.
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Smiles wrote:
Undaunted wrote:At the end of the day Trump Vs. Clinton is like saying your going to have cancer now what kind do you want?
There are many types of cancer. At the end of the day I think having ~ for example ~ basal cell carcinoma (Clinton) would be a much happier ride than metastasizing lung cancer (Trump).
Sad that it comes down to having to choose one cancer over another.
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I have a feeling, and again I hope I'm wrong, that Clinton supporters are going to say she won and Trump supporters are going to say he won. I hope undecided voters will side with Clinton, especially in the states where she most needs the electoral votes.
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I was mildly entertained.

Clinton took the edge and maintained it throughout the debate IMO...as Donald played robe-a-dope.

This election will certainly set records. Clinton and Trump already score the lowest approval ratings of any presidential nominees in U.S. history. The gap of "undecideds" will probably expand (not shrink) as these debates move forward which I believe can only help Clinton. Another record will probably be the lowest voter turnout in history.
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The good news is the post-debate polls and news commentators are saying Clinton won, Trump lost. Even Fox News commentators are saying Hillary won, Trump lost.

I, for one, hope that will put Hillary clearly back on top as far a being the most likely to win the election. Of course, there are still two more debates to go along with the vice presidential debate.

In any case, I'd say this is a happy day for Hillary and a "very very" disappointing one for Trump (who almost always gives us a double "very")
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Post-debate poll: Hillary Clinton takes round one

By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director

September 27, 2016

(CNN) Hillary Clinton was deemed the winner of Monday night's debate by 62% of voters who tuned in to watch, while just 27% said they thought Donald Trump had the better night, according to a CNN/ORC Poll of voters who watched the debate.

That drubbing is similar to Mitt Romney's dominant performance over President Barack Obama in the first 2012 presidential debate.

Voters who watched said Clinton expressed her views more clearly than Trump and had a better understanding of the issues by a margin of more than 2-to-1. Clinton also was seen as having done a better job addressing concerns voters might have about her potential presidency by a 57% to 35% margin, and as the stronger leader by a 56% to 39% margin.

The gap was smaller on which candidate appeared more sincere and authentic, though still broke in Clinton's favor, with 53% saying she was more sincere vs. 40% who felt Trump did better on that score. Trump topped Clinton 56% to 33% as the debater who spent more time attacking their opponent.

Although the survey suggested debate watchers were more apt to describe themselves as Democrats than the overall pool of voters, even independents who watched deemed Clinton the winner, 54% vs. 33% who thought Trump did the best job in the debate.

And the survey suggests Clinton outperformed the expectations of those who watched. While pre-debate interviews indicated these watchers expected Clinton to win by a 26-point margin, that grew to 35 points in the post-debate survey.

About half in the poll say the debate did not have an effect on their voting plans, 47% said it didn't make a difference, but those who say they were moved by it tilted in Clinton's direction, 34% said the debate made them more apt to vote for Clinton, 18% more likely to back Trump.

On the issues, voters who watched broadly say Clinton would do a better job handling foreign policy, 62% to 35%, and most think she would be the better candidate to handle terrorism, 54% to 43% who prefer Trump. But on the economy, the split is much closer, with 51% saying they favor Clinton's approach vs. 47% who prefer Trump.

Most debate watchers came away from Monday's face-off with doubts about Trump's ability to handle the presidency. Overall, 55% say they didn't think Trump would be able to handle the job of president, 43% said they thought he would. Among political independents who watched the debate, it's a near-even split, 50% say he can handle it, 49% that he can't.

And voters who watched were more apt to see Trump's attacks on Clinton as unfair than they were to see her critiques that way. About two-thirds of debate viewers, 67%, said Clinton's critiques of Trump were fair, while just 51% said the same of Trump.

Assessments of Trump's attacks on Clinton were sharply split by gender, with 58% of men seeing them as fair compared with 44% of women who watched on Monday. There was almost no gender divide in perceptions of whether Clinton's attacks were fair.

The CNN/ORC post-debate poll includes interviews with 521 registered voters who watched the September 26 debate. Results among debate-watchers have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points. Respondents were originally interviewed as part of a September 23-25 telephone survey of a random sample of Americans, and indicated they planned to watch the debate and would be willing to be re-interviewed when it was over.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/27/polit ... index.html

Undaunted wrote:At the end of the day Trump Vs. Clinton is like saying your going to have cancer now what kind do you want?
Don't feel too badly. After all, there is still the option of writing in whoever you think would be much better presidential material.

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It's 5:00 AM here in Chicago, and yes, the poll results are hitting the news stands giving the debate victory to Clinton by a wide margin. Some speculators are already predicting that Trump will find a way to dodge the next two debates in order to to avoid a landslide defeat during the debate process.

No doubt students of the Trump University were among those casting their votes.
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Clinton was by far the winner in my opinion. What strikes and worries me is the ignorance and plain stupidity of a large portion of US voters who support Trump.
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She was no match for him, she will be no match for Putin.

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Dodger wrote: No doubt students of the Trump University were among those casting their votes.
Too late, it went bankrupt.
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