Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

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#1 Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby Farangholiday » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:26 am

Most of the guys I have met in my room this trip were from the meeting apps.

There are of course positives and negatives to this.

I enjoy “ negotiating “ over prices and service using the apps and with many of guys now using the English translation app they can understand what you want and either reject your offer or accept it.

I understand its not for everyone,some farangs I know dont enjoy that “ business like” contact and negotiation but prefer the social contact with the guy in a bar beforehand,they prefer a more a “ boyfriend experience” that you get in the bar than a business exchange using the apps.

But to me It’s much easier than sitting with a guy in a bar and trying to get him to understand what you like in terms of service and what your offering cashwise.

I treat it what it is,a business transaction,just like calling a plumber or electrician out to your house.
I have learnt to clarify with the service provider before he accepts the job what my pricng and service requirements are so that way he knows what is expected eg timing,length of service,what I want to do,and what im offering financially and bonus depending on service.

I also have found out that there is percentage of guys on the apps who have never worked in a bar and wouldnt be seen dead in one and have normal day jobs.

So far thru the apps I have met a Chef, Numerous Uni students,motorbike taxi drivers,soldiers,personal trainers etc all using the apps for extra money.

Of course the most important for many customers is the cost which at most times is lower than visiting a bar, to tell you the truth I am nowadays finding bars boring and overpriced,thats my opinion however,others may prefer bars to socialise and mingle and they have their place for that.

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#2 Re: Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby thewayhelooks » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:02 am

Do you meet these strangers in your room? Isn't that a bit dangerous if they are all after money? Would it not be better to meet them elsewhere before taking them to your room?

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#3 Re: Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby Farangholiday » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:13 am

You are correct and usually if Im concerned I notify and tip the reception staff.

That way they record the service providers ID hopefully and usually call my room after the session to see if everything was ok.

Not all hotels do that,a tip to reception staff usually helps.

If you are staying somewhere where there is no security or reception you would have to use your commonsense.

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#4 Re: Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby Gaybutton » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:08 am

thewayhelooks wrote:Do you meet these strangers in your room? Isn't that a bit dangerous if they are all after money?

I don't think so. Over the years I've met dozens of boys via the apps. I've never had a problem of any kind. I wouldn't leave my money out where it would be an easy temptation, but most wouldn't dream of trying to steal anyway.

The only problem I've ever had from meeting boys on the apps is once in a while they turn out to be a dud, but other than that I've never had a problem.

In a hotel, since you've already negotiated the price, take out the money you're going to give the boy and put the rest in your room or lobby safe. Even if you forget to do that, you're still probably safe. Most hotels take the boy's ID card before letting him go to your room and they don't give it back until you give them the "all clear."

I fail to see how meeting the boy elsewhere first means now you're protected in your room if he does turn out to be a thief.

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#5 Re: Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby fountainhall » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:05 am

If in Bangkok, the vast majority of the boys on the apps are not money boys. Most may live quite far from the centre of the city and reimbursement of transport may be all that is expected. Granted many may have no interest in farang and others will indeed be money boys. But for visitors who have time to chat and get to know someone - not always easy for those here for just a few days, I agree - it’s not always necessary to pay for play.

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#6 Re: Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby Farangholiday » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:27 am

Yes as I stay in a hotel mostly during my visit,I always take out the money I am going to give to the guy,everything else is locked up.

I have had a very few bad experiences in all the time I have been using the apps which must be running into at least 8-9 years?

If I feel like I have been deceived on purpose by the service provider I make a rule not to pay.
A few years ago I had a boy come to my room who was adamant he was a “man”,his pics certainly looked it and he knew exactly what I was after before he arrived.

He turns up and immediately walks into my room door walking like a ladyboy swinging his hips and making screeching sounds as he claims the room was too hot.

Immediately I knew I had been deceived,and I told him so,he of course demanded money and let out that “every farang gives him at least 500b to leave”

Not this little black duck I said to him , I opened the door and shoved him out.
I don’t appreciate being lied to nor stood over for the money I work hard to get.

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#7 Re: Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby Gaybutton » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:52 am

fountainhall wrote:visitors who have time to chat and get to know someone - not always easy for those here for just a few days

Seems easy enough to me to deal with that. If someone is looking at the apps, if a boy of interest is spotted who says you need to wait until you are in Thailand to start chatting them up and making arrangements to meet? Those arrangements can be made before going to Thailand.


Farangholiday wrote:he of course demanded money and let out that “every farang gives him at least 500b to leave”

Well that's certainly interesting. Apparently this boy gets told to leave by many more farang than only you. I don't think your problem is having to worry about theft. Seems to me your problem is more of picking the wrong boys in the first place.

One thing you may not realize - it is actually possible he didn't lie to you at all. Many of the Thai boys equate "I am a man" to being a top, whether he is a true man, a fem boy, or even a ladyboy. To them, if he's a top, then he's a man.

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#8 Re: Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby Jun » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:41 am

Farangholiday wrote:Immediately I knew I had been deceived,and I told him so,he of course demanded money and let out that “every farang gives him at least 500b to leave”

Not this little black duck I said to him , I opened the door and shoved him out.
I don’t appreciate being lied to nor stood over for the money I work hard to get.

Good on you. If everyone did this, their scam would stop.

I've never needed to kick anyone out in Thailand, but have done this 3 times in Europe. Twice for people who had no intention of delivering any service & once when a guy was insisting on 33% more than originally agreed, for what was poor service. The way to get more money out of me is to over perform & then ask nicely.

In Thailand, I meet boys from the apps away from the hotel.

For me, the advantages of the apps are:
1 You can negotiate whatever you like, including long time etc before making any commitment. In a gogo bar, it costs a drink to start the negotiation.
2 No off fee paid to the bars.

The disadvantage is he doesn't always match up to the photo. Or he may be missing full body photos, so you don't see the oversized gut. To be honest, it is rare that this is a serious problem, but I do know people who have been using the same photos for about 5 years now.

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#9 Re: Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby Dodger » Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:24 am

From a boys perspective...

He is agreeing to meet a total stranger who is more-than-likely 40-60 years older than he is, and in many cases doesn't even have the benefit of a photo of his soon-to-be date. Then he has the delight of answering those ridiculous questions that some of you seem compelled to ask regarding what he will or won't do to satisfy you in bed (or wherever) which I'm sure he finds delightful. To me, these tactics are a surefire way to ruin, what could have been, a terrific encounter.

Regardless of what they are willing to do to earn money you can't remove the fact that they are human beings. If one comes to your door and doesn't look as good as he did in the photo just look at yourself in the mirror and imagine what he may be thinking.

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#10 Re: Pro’s & Cons in using the meeting Apps

Postby Gaybutton » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:28 am

Dodger wrote:From a boys perspective...

I agree with every word Dodger wrote - and more.

Beyond what Dodger said, many farang try to get away with giving the boy as little as possible. The farang pays a lot of money just getting to Thailand, stays in nice hotels that the boys could never afford, eats in good restaurants while the boys are lucky to eat a bowl of rice with a couple fish heads, drinks like there's no tomorrow - and then tries to give the boys the smallest amount of money he can get away with.

Meanwhile, the boys are the reason they come to Thailand.

If the boy is deliberately trying to lie, cheat, steal, refuses to do what he agreed to do, or otherwise intentionally misleads the 'client,' - that's one thing. But all too often the farang is the one doing wrong and treating the boy badly.

When that kind of farang complains that the boy was somehow not up to his standards, my response is "Tough shit. If you don't like it, return home and go back to masturbating to photos."


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