13 Thais Missing during Caving Expedition
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fountainhall
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A hospital briefing is now underway. Two of the first four kids rescued had low body temperatures and a third had a fever. Their bodies are now adjusting well to a new diet this morning but this remains mostly of the liquid and easily digestible variety. The second batch were aged between twelve and fourteen. Of these, two also suffered from low body temperature and one a relatively low heart rate. Bodily fluids have been sent to Bangkok for analysis. The doctors found they all had a higher than normal white blood cell count and lung inflammations. This morning all are fit, healthy, cheerful and can now talk normally. They all wear sunglasses but only as a precaution. Although they are in individual quarantine units, they can see and wave to the other boys. In the cave it was extremely damp but they did not see any bats or another birds/animals. The families have been able to see the boys through a glass window. Only once the boys are declared free from infections can they have physical contact with the kids who have to remain in hospital for about one week.
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All the reports I've seen suggest the weakest came out first which would make sense. No idea of the whereabouts of the coach as the names of those out so far have not been revealed. The Guardian is reporting the first four have seen their parents but only through glass at the hospital as they are in quarantine.
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fountainhall
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The doctor said that the age range of those presently in the hospital is 12 to 16. So we can assume the youngest boy aged 11 and the coach are still in the cave.
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CBS News has published an interesting set of 53 photos. See: https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/thai-c ... ccer-team/
As for last night's torrential rains, remember that they have taken steps to try to prevent more water from entering the cave. Hopefully enough water was prevented from entering the cave. The news is saying not enough water got into the cave that would hamper the rescue operation.
It was just announced that today's rescue operation began at 10:08am, Thailand time today. They said they intend to try to rescue all of them today, including the people in the cave with the boys who have been helping them.
As for last night's torrential rains, remember that they have taken steps to try to prevent more water from entering the cave. Hopefully enough water was prevented from entering the cave. The news is saying not enough water got into the cave that would hamper the rescue operation.
It was just announced that today's rescue operation began at 10:08am, Thailand time today. They said they intend to try to rescue all of them today, including the people in the cave with the boys who have been helping them.
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fountainhall
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Confirmed that the plan has changed and the rescuers will now hope to get all five of those remaining in the cave out today.
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fountainhall
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A really scary sketch in that batch from cbsnews GB posted.
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Yes, but thankfully it has been working.fountainhall wrote:A really scary sketch in that batch from cbsnews GB posted.
The reports I've seen about the medical conditions of the boys who are in the hospital range from heart problems, to hypothermia, to lung infections, along with other problems, but they are improving. Perhaps that explains why they don't want to risk the possibility of allowing anyone, including parents, other than medical staff, from contact until the doctors feel they are well enough. In its own way, it seems similar to intensive care.
They are also wearing sunglasses while slowly adjusting to the light.
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fountainhall
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Ivan Karadzic, a member of international rescue team, is full of admiration for the way the rescued boys have coped with the unprecedented operation.
No doubt this is in part a result of the training and encouragement of the Navy Seals and the Australian doctor who has been with them underground over the past week, and the calmness of the divers who have been guiding them through the cave complex. I suspect also it is partly due to their the coach whose instruction in meditation techniques will have helped them cope with their situation.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/live/2 ... ve-updates"They are being forced to do something that no kid has ever done before. It is not in any way normal for kids to do cave diving aged 11. They are diving in something that is considered an extremely hazardous environment, in zero visibility, the only light in there is the torches you bring yourself. We were obviously very afraid of any kind of panic. Then there is multiple equipment malfunctions you can imagine.
I cannot understand how cool these small kids are ... Incredibly strong kids."
No doubt this is in part a result of the training and encouragement of the Navy Seals and the Australian doctor who has been with them underground over the past week, and the calmness of the divers who have been guiding them through the cave complex. I suspect also it is partly due to their the coach whose instruction in meditation techniques will have helped them cope with their situation.
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At the time of this post there is no live streaming that I can find. This video is the latest I have found:
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First 8 rescued boys all in good condition, ravenous
July 10, 2018
CHIANG RAI: All eight boys extracted from flooded Tham Luang cave in Mae Sai district were in good condition on Tuesday morning after some were treated for low temperatures and suspected lung infection, the Public Health Ministry said.
Dr Jessada Chokdamrongsuk, permanent secretary for health, told reporters at Chiangrai Prachanukroh Hospital that upon their arrival there the eight young footballers were given a medical examination and received nutrients, vitamins, vaccines and antibiotics. The first four, aged 14-16, who were brought out on Sunday, had low body temperatures. They were given warmth. Two of them were diagnosed with lung infection and one of them had a scrape on his right ankle.
On Tuesday morning all of them had normal body temperatures and were able to perform their everyday routines.
They were initially all placed on a special diet, despite one asking for fried pork with Thai basil. They had no problems eating a meal because they had already been given food gel by rescuers in the cave.
The second group of four boys, aged 12-14, also arrived at the hospital with low body temperatures. One of them was very low and had an unusually low pulse. After being treated, all were in good condition on Tuesday morning, Dr Jessada said.
All the boys were in good psychological condition, were able to talk and none had a fever. However, their white blood cell counts were initially high and doctors were waiting for results of laboratory tests, due in a few days, to learn if they had contracted any disease.
The first four boys had already met their families through windows.
Dr Jessada said their initially low temperatures might result from the boys having been trapped without food and in a damp area, and having dived for long periods on their way out.
"The boys are frequently hungry because their bodies need food... This morning the first four boys asked for bread and chocolate spread... They are athletes, so their bodies resist illness well... They are still on saline drips because doctors are providing medication intravenously."
"They are happy and miss their home... but they may have to watch the World Cup matches on TV because they are still in quarantine," Dr Jessada said.
The boys were brought out of the cave blindfolded to protect their eyes after so long in the dark. The blindfolds were removed on arrival at hospital. The first four boys' vision had already returned to normal. The other four were still wearing sunglasses he said.
Four boys and their football coach remained trapped in the cave on Tuesday morning. The group of 13 entered the cave complex after football practice on June 23 and were trapped inside by a flash flood after heavy rain pounded the area. Continuing rain has made their rescue extremely perilous.
Story, photo, and video: https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... n-ravenous
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Solid food but no TV yet for rescued eight
July 10, 2018
The eight members of the Mu Pa (wild boars) Academy football club rescued thus far from Tham Luang Cave were in good health mentally and physically, although all had high white blood cell counts and two initially showed indications of pneumonia.
Senior health officials briefed reporters at Chiang Rai Prachanukroh Hospital on Tuesday, saying the group would remain under observation at the hospital for at least one week.
“All eight are in good health – no fever as of this morning,” said Public Health Permanent Secretary Dr Jessada Chokdamrongsuk.
They showed no signs of problems from their hours-long dive to safety, he said.
All of the boys had shed a kilogram or two while trapped in the cave but were now able to get out of their hospital beds and walk around.
They’ve received medication to stabilise their white blood cell count, which had risen due to lack of food and being in a cold, damp environment, Jessada said.
The first four footballers brought out, ages 14-16, were taking Vitamin B1 and have doffed the sunglasses they were given to wear full-time to protect their vision.
The four who came out later, ages 12-14, were still wearing sunglasses, he said.
The two found to have signs of pneumonia have reacted well to antibiotics and their fever and coughing were abating, Jessada said.
The boys said they’d seen no bats or other animals inside the cave, but doctors would keep watching for any indications of infectious disease. Samples had been sent for lab tests in Bangkok and the results should come out in two days.
“They are also in good mental health, able to talk and appearing cheerful. Some even joked with Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha when he visited them on Monday night,” Jessada said.
Jessada told reporters the families of the first four boys rescued were also allowed to see them on Monday night, though only through a window.
“If tests turn up no signs of infectious disease, we’ll allow their families inside to talk to them, but they’ll have to wear protective suits and stay two metres away.”
All the kids were to chat on the phone with their families later on Tuesday.
Asked what the first thing boys said was, Jessada said, “They were thankful and happy to be rescued and wanted to go home.”
Since being found in the cave, the boys were fed power gels and soft food to build their strength gradually. As of Tuesday morning, they were able to eat normal but mild-tasting food, Jessada said, and “They seem to be hungry often.”
Their requests to watch TV have been denied pending consultations with psychiatrists.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/ ... l/30349730
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First 8 rescued boys all in good condition, ravenous
July 10, 2018
CHIANG RAI: All eight boys extracted from flooded Tham Luang cave in Mae Sai district were in good condition on Tuesday morning after some were treated for low temperatures and suspected lung infection, the Public Health Ministry said.
Dr Jessada Chokdamrongsuk, permanent secretary for health, told reporters at Chiangrai Prachanukroh Hospital that upon their arrival there the eight young footballers were given a medical examination and received nutrients, vitamins, vaccines and antibiotics. The first four, aged 14-16, who were brought out on Sunday, had low body temperatures. They were given warmth. Two of them were diagnosed with lung infection and one of them had a scrape on his right ankle.
On Tuesday morning all of them had normal body temperatures and were able to perform their everyday routines.
They were initially all placed on a special diet, despite one asking for fried pork with Thai basil. They had no problems eating a meal because they had already been given food gel by rescuers in the cave.
The second group of four boys, aged 12-14, also arrived at the hospital with low body temperatures. One of them was very low and had an unusually low pulse. After being treated, all were in good condition on Tuesday morning, Dr Jessada said.
All the boys were in good psychological condition, were able to talk and none had a fever. However, their white blood cell counts were initially high and doctors were waiting for results of laboratory tests, due in a few days, to learn if they had contracted any disease.
The first four boys had already met their families through windows.
Dr Jessada said their initially low temperatures might result from the boys having been trapped without food and in a damp area, and having dived for long periods on their way out.
"The boys are frequently hungry because their bodies need food... This morning the first four boys asked for bread and chocolate spread... They are athletes, so their bodies resist illness well... They are still on saline drips because doctors are providing medication intravenously."
"They are happy and miss their home... but they may have to watch the World Cup matches on TV because they are still in quarantine," Dr Jessada said.
The boys were brought out of the cave blindfolded to protect their eyes after so long in the dark. The blindfolds were removed on arrival at hospital. The first four boys' vision had already returned to normal. The other four were still wearing sunglasses he said.
Four boys and their football coach remained trapped in the cave on Tuesday morning. The group of 13 entered the cave complex after football practice on June 23 and were trapped inside by a flash flood after heavy rain pounded the area. Continuing rain has made their rescue extremely perilous.
Story, photo, and video: https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... n-ravenous
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Solid food but no TV yet for rescued eight
July 10, 2018
The eight members of the Mu Pa (wild boars) Academy football club rescued thus far from Tham Luang Cave were in good health mentally and physically, although all had high white blood cell counts and two initially showed indications of pneumonia.
Senior health officials briefed reporters at Chiang Rai Prachanukroh Hospital on Tuesday, saying the group would remain under observation at the hospital for at least one week.
“All eight are in good health – no fever as of this morning,” said Public Health Permanent Secretary Dr Jessada Chokdamrongsuk.
They showed no signs of problems from their hours-long dive to safety, he said.
All of the boys had shed a kilogram or two while trapped in the cave but were now able to get out of their hospital beds and walk around.
They’ve received medication to stabilise their white blood cell count, which had risen due to lack of food and being in a cold, damp environment, Jessada said.
The first four footballers brought out, ages 14-16, were taking Vitamin B1 and have doffed the sunglasses they were given to wear full-time to protect their vision.
The four who came out later, ages 12-14, were still wearing sunglasses, he said.
The two found to have signs of pneumonia have reacted well to antibiotics and their fever and coughing were abating, Jessada said.
The boys said they’d seen no bats or other animals inside the cave, but doctors would keep watching for any indications of infectious disease. Samples had been sent for lab tests in Bangkok and the results should come out in two days.
“They are also in good mental health, able to talk and appearing cheerful. Some even joked with Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha when he visited them on Monday night,” Jessada said.
Jessada told reporters the families of the first four boys rescued were also allowed to see them on Monday night, though only through a window.
“If tests turn up no signs of infectious disease, we’ll allow their families inside to talk to them, but they’ll have to wear protective suits and stay two metres away.”
All the kids were to chat on the phone with their families later on Tuesday.
Asked what the first thing boys said was, Jessada said, “They were thankful and happy to be rescued and wanted to go home.”
Since being found in the cave, the boys were fed power gels and soft food to build their strength gradually. As of Tuesday morning, they were able to eat normal but mild-tasting food, Jessada said, and “They seem to be hungry often.”
Their requests to watch TV have been denied pending consultations with psychiatrists.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/ ... l/30349730
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fountainhall
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More from The Guardian's live reporting. Another reason for the care being taken in having the boys in quarantine for longer than originally suggested.
Hugh Montgomery, a professor of intensive care medicine at University College London, said caves presented a risk of tick-borne relapsing fever as well as histoplasmosis, a fungal lung infection commonly known as “cave disease”.